Politics Thread

[Masterofreality]

You mean grab pussy, right? Grab ass wouldn't cause anyone to bat an eye at this point.

Welcome to the Euro mode where sex transgression has zero issue in any campaign. None.

[paulxu]

Wonder why Flynn plead guilty to lying if he didn't?

[Masterofreality]

Wonder why Flynn plead guilty to lying if he didn't?

Pressured into it. Just read the stories Paul. Instead of guessing with a question, you could have an answer- that you wouldn't like.
He was told he would have to serve 5 years, but if he admitted to the "false statement" (One Count) and "cooperate" with investigators, he would avoid jail time and would not be sentenced until after Mueller was done. This was Mueller's first stab at justifying his investigation with a "kill" no matter how weak ass it was. The case against Flynn was so weak that the Federal Judge in DC who accepted the plea, Rudolph Contreras, recused himself from the case 5 days after accepting the plea. He didn't want to be responsible for passing a sentence on the guy.

[noteggs]

Like Schumer said:

"Let me tell you: You take on the intelligence community — they have six ways from Sunday at getting back at you.”

Might explain a little?

This scares me...

[bobbiemcgee]

Looks like the guy who goes out for Big Mac's has covid.

[xudash]

Wonder why Flynn plead guilty to lying if he didn't?

Paul, seriously, you should be focusing some of your questions on the actions of some of the people on the Far Left. This has been a dangerous ride for this democracy.

[paulxu]

Hey, somebody says to me: plead guilty to lying...and I didn't lie...I'm not pleading guilty. That's pretty straightforward.

I think they had tape of him talking to the Russian guy about sanctions. He told FBI, Congress maybe, and Pence, that he didn't.

Now they are not pressing charges for a technicality. He lied and plead guilty to it.

Do you actually think a former general would say he lied if he didn't? And the underlying thing was telling the Russians they'd relieve sanctions even though Trump wasn't even in office yet. And the sanctions were from Congress for interfering in our elections and going into the Ukraine.

So, I'm sorry Dash. I think Barr has politicized the hell out of the DOJ, and dropping a case where a general pleads guilty is very strange.
I don't think a general with a distinguished career would plead guilty to lying...unless he really did.

[X Factor]

Hey, somebody says to me: plead guilty to lying...and I didn't lie...I'm not pleading guilty. That's pretty straightforward.

I think they had tape of him talking to the Russian guy about sanctions. He told FBI, Congress maybe, and Pence, that he didn't.

Now they are not pressing charges for a technicality. He lied and plead guilty to it.

Do you actually think a former general would say he lied if he didn't? And the underlying thing was telling the Russians they'd relieve sanctions even though Trump wasn't even in office yet. And the sanctions were from Congress for interfering in our elections and going into the Ukraine.

So, I'm sorry Dash. I think Barr has politicized the hell out of the DOJ, and dropping a case where a general pleads guilty is very strange.
I don't think a general with a distinguished career would plead guilty to lying...unless he really did.

Not pressing charges for a technicality? Have you even read anything about his case? He was set up! The FBI, CIA, whoever, found NOTHING on Flynn in regards to Russia and recommended closing his case. Then FBI agent Peter Strzok concocted a scheme to get him fired or to try catching him in lie.

And do you know how many innocent people confess to stuff they didn't do? It's easy to sit there and say you wouldn't do it, and maybe you wouldn't, but it happens.

Ever heard of the Guildford Four? Completely different circumstances, but they all confessed to bombing an English pub that they had nothing to do with.

FBI conspired in Michael Flynn case

In late 2017, Flynn pleaded guilty to lying to FBI agents about two contacts with then-Russian Ambassador Sergey Kislyak. Flynn was attempting to withdraw his guilty plea ahead of sentencing. He says he did not intentionally lie.

[bobbiemcgee]

He admitted twice in open court he was guilty. Guess we'll have to let everyone out of jail who is in there for lying to the FBI. Anyway, it's up to Judge Sullivan and nobody's convinced he'll go for the sham.

[Strange Brew]

He admitted twice in open court he was guilty. Guess we'll have to let everyone out of jail who is in there for lying to the FBI. Anyway, it's up to Judge Sullivan and nobody's convinced he'll go for the sham.

I’ll take cups of Bobbie’s whines and tears to go.

They threatened his son and gave him 0 jail time (maybe). You take that deal. Now he’s free with a clean record. You. Can vote in a couple of months. That’s how we change things.