Politics Thread

[Mrs. Garrett]

Explosive Devices Found in Mail Sent to Hillary Clinton and Obama
Explosive Device Is Found in Mailbox at Soros’s Home in N.Y. Suburb

I am submitting this for the record for the next time someone complains that just liberals have gone insane.

There's at least on conservative on this board who's going to tell us this is the work of a crazy liberal trying to frame the Republicans.

[GoMuskies]

There's at least on conservative on this board who's going to tell us this is the work of a crazy liberal trying to frame the Republicans.

False flag! I'm sure Alex Jones is on the case, but the liberal government has censored him!

[bjf123]

Explosive Devices Found in Mail Sent to Hillary Clinton and Obama
Explosive Device Is Found in Mailbox at Soros’s Home in N.Y. Suburb

I am submitting this for the record for the next time someone complains that just liberals have gone insane.

There are whack-a-doodles on both sides. While I might disagree politically with everyone on the receiving end of these devices, I don’t want any harm to come to any of them. This is inexcusable. Find who did this, lock them up, and throw away the key.


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[paulxu]

False flag! I'm sure Alex Jones is on the case, but the liberal government has censored him!

You're right !

Since Jones has been silenced, this guy decided to stand in for him.

https://talkingpointsmemo.com/news/f...tion-left-mobs

[paulxu]

One of these things is not like the other:

Today: "acts or threats of political violence of any kind have no place in the United States of America," (on the packages mailed to some politicians)

Last week: "Any guy who can do a body slam is my kind of guy.” (on current Congressman who assaulted a reporter and pled guilty to doing it)

[XUOWNSUC]

One of these things is not like the other:

Today: "acts or threats of political violence of any kind have no place in the United States of America," (on the packages mailed to some politicians)

Last week: "Any guy who can do a body slam is my kind of guy.” (on current Congressman who assaulted a reporter and pled guilty to doing it)

"When they go low, we kick them."

and

"If you see anybody from that (Trump) Cabinet in a restaurant, in a department store, at a gasoline station, you get out and you create a crowd and you push back on them, and you tell them they're not welcome anymore, anywhere."

[paulxu]

I don't agree with those comments, and the first was taken out of context.

But...neither of those people has the bully pulpit, and leads chants of locking up political opponents, or urging supporters against the media.

But I don't really expect much else after 2 years. He's still operating like a 5th grade bully who happens to be our president.

The constant lying however, is starting to wear thin.

[GenerationX]

"When they go low, we kick them."

and

"If you see anybody from that (Trump) Cabinet in a restaurant, in a department store, at a gasoline station, you get out and you create a crowd and you push back on them, and you tell them they're not welcome anymore, anywhere."

There are definitely wackadoodles on both sides, but it’s disingenuous at best to equate these statements with literal and/or implied approval of violence.

The first quote is obviously figurative, and if someone takes offense, they’re acknowledging that conservatives “go low”. Duh, I know, but if you want to avoid someone fighting back (FIGURATIVELY), don’t start the fight.

For the record, I think politicians should be left alone in their private lives, but I don’t think there’s been any condoning of violence related to confronting them. If there has been, it must have been a one-off.

[Caf]

For the record, I think politicians should be left alone in their private lives, but I don’t think there’s been any condoning of violence related to confronting them. If there has been, it must have been a one-off.

No there hasn't, but there has been absolutely no moderation and an awful lot of demonizing done by politicians and people on both sides. It's basically only life or death when we see politicians acknowledge or appreciate people on the other side of the aisle. We as voters like and reward that. You can see it here, there are plenty of us who won't even acknowledge the possibility that the other side has a point.

[paulxu]

I agree that we all are to a great extent wrapped up in our own perspective.
But we need a fact based media (not the opinion commentators) to help us see both sides (without equivocating)

But what do you do about this? This is a Trump tweet from this morning, which reaches 50 million Americans:



How do you even address that when it is the President of your country trying to influence voters with a lie?

Do you say...Mr President, the ACA protects preexisting conditions.
The Republicans had 70 votes to repeal the ACA.
Your justice department is in federal court arguing that the preexisting condition portion of the ACA is unconstitutional.
Your administration just issued a rule that will allow state's to let insurers drop preexisting conditions from their coverage plans.

I'm serious. How do you address the fact that the President just lies to 50 million Americans...daily?