Politics Thread

[GoMuskies]

Huh? What's that mean Go? I think she won the popular vote; certainly not the electoral college.

She got a plurality of votes. Not a majority.

[paulxu]

OK, she got the most votes. Generally a win in direct elections unless they require 50% +1.
Most points wins in basketball !
Speaking of which, that NBA commissioner guy is a scary looking dude.

[GoMuskies]

Most points is electoral votes.

Most votes is more like rebounds.

[paulxu]

Hah!
BTW, most politics is not electoral votes. Most is most votes.

[GoMuskies]

Hah!
BTW, most politics is not electoral votes. Most is most votes.

Agree. If someone wants to change the rules going forward (yes!), I'll be all for it. I just don't give much credence to whining about the rules everyone knew they were playing by after the fact due to the outcome.

[boozehound]

You said that was the cause of Hillary's loss. I would say Hillary being a shitty candidate had as much or more to do with her loss. No Russian propaganda necessary to believe that.

Though looking back I see how you can read it that way. Don't mean they saw how toxic she was through "fake news". Just regular ass news.

I mean, Hillary was definitely a shitty candidate, but compared to Trump? I'd take Ted Cruz over Trump, and I hate Ted Cruz. I'm actually not sure there was a serious primary candidate on either side that I wouldn't prefer to Trump. He is an imbecile with a personality disorder who doesn't seem to want, or truly engage with, being President. The one good thing that could come of this moron's Presidency is that if we survive it without major catastrophe it will validate that our system is strong enough that it can survive literally almost any mistake the electorate can make.

[GoMuskies]

I'm certainly not making a pro Trump argument. He doesn't bother me too much, just as Obama didn't bother me too much, but he definitely wouldn't have been one of my top choices.

I just don't think we'd be better off with Hillary as president (other than late night TV and SNL likely sucking less).

[xu95]

Living in Kansas it was easy for me not to vote for Hillary without having to vote for Trump. There was no chance of her winning my state and there was no chance of Trump losing it based on my vote. I got to use the write in option for the first time in my life.

I don't like Trump being president. The Republicans had better choices but they couldn't win the primary. I like Trump being president more than I would have liked Hillary being president.

Both parties did a shitty job of picking candidates in the primaries. The problem with the Democratic primary was they didn't have a good alternative. The Socialist would have been an even worse choice than Hillary.

That is my fear right now as far as our country goes. It seems neither party has a good candidate that they are willing to throw out there. Maybe it is because of all of the bullshit they have to put up with during the election process. Trust me, I did some stuff in my 20s that I would not want coming back to haunt me in my late 40s.

xu95

[GoMuskies]

Living in Kansas it was easy for me not to vote for Hillary without having to vote for Trump.

Definitely. I wish Gary Johnson wasn't such a goofball.

[Lloyd Braun]

Living in Kansas it was easy for me not to vote for Hillary without having to vote for Trump. There was no chance of her winning my state and there was no chance of Trump losing it based on my vote. I got to use the write in option for the first time in my life.

I don't like Trump being president. The Republicans had better choices but they couldn't win the primary. I like Trump being president more than I would have liked Hillary being president.

Both parties did a shitty job of picking candidates in the primaries. The problem with the Democratic primary was they didn't have a good alternative. The Socialist would have been an even worse choice than Hillary.

That is my fear right now as far as our country goes. It seems neither party has a good candidate that they are willing to throw out there. Maybe it is because of all of the bullshit they have to put up with during the election process. Trust me, I did some stuff in my 20s that I would not want coming back to haunt me in my late 40s.

xu95

I’m pretty sure he polled significantly better against Trump than Hillary did, didn’t he? Not sure if that would have made the difference in the electoral...