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    Quote Originally Posted by Lloyd Braun View Post
    Yea Obama loves walls! Wtf does this post even mean? Are you implying ISIS will come through the Mexican border?
    I'm saying Obama helped other countries finance their walls. I'm saying Trump isn't the only leader of this country that thinks walls are a worthwhile investment because then why else would Obama help those countries?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Juice View Post
    I'm saying Obama helped other countries finance their walls. I'm saying Trump isn't the only leader of this country that thinks walls are a worthwhile investment because then why else would Obama help those countries?
    I think you are confusing border security/training and literally a wall. Which is not border security. Or any real purpose.

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    The U.S. interest in this unfettered and illegal trade has to do with immigration control. Human beings as well as cargo cross this river. But Mexico has not moved to seal this border the way the U.S. has on Mexico’s northern border with the United States.
    Washington has committed at least $100 million to support Mexico’s southern border program since 2014. As of February 2016, $20 million has been delivered.
    http://www.marketplace.org/2016/06/3...atemala-border

    The Obama administration is spending close to a half a billion dollars to build a sophisticated electronic fence along Jordan's northern and eastern borders, a wall which US strategic planners hope will stem the flow of refugees and also wall off the increasingly important American base from the disintegration of Syria and Iraq.
    It's all paid for by the United States taxpayer. The JBSP is loosely part of a wall-building program to stop weapons of mass destruction sponsored by the Defense Threat Reduction Agency, focused not just on Jordan but also on the borders of Turkey, Iraq, and Lebanon. Raytheon Intelligence, Information and Services of Tucson, Arizona, a division of the Raytheon Company — one of the largest US defence companies — is the prime contractor.
    https://news.vice.com/article/the-gr...amic-state-out

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    Is there a wall in southern Mexico that the US paid for? The answer is no. Even if there were it is comparing apples to oranges. Comparing the Mexican border to ours is not a comparison.

    I also suggest you find newer sources because those are outdated.

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    Certified bonkers president. 3-5 MILLION fraudelent votes, all for Hillarx??!!!

    You're the President. Even though you lost the popular vote. So do your job and lose the rabbit ears. Christ what a juvenile jackass.
    It's a still great day to be a Muskie, but a sad day to be a supporting member of this board.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Juice View Post
    I'm saying Obama helped other countries finance their walls. I'm saying Trump isn't the only leader of this country that thinks walls are a worthwhile investment because then why else would Obama help those countries?
    WTF are you saying????? Spend 25BILLION because Obama said wha???

    One stupid expensive boondoggle deserves another? This is more important than health care for our citizens?

    We've lost our minds with greed and envy.
    It's a still great day to be a Muskie, but a sad day to be a supporting member of this board.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Emp View Post
    WTF are you saying????? Spend 25BILLION because Obama said wha???

    One stupid expensive boondoggle deserves another? This is more important than health care for our citizens?

    We've lost our minds with greed and envy.
    No, the spending by both parties is out of control. I'm just saying that Democrats have all of a sudden acted like they give a shit about spending on federal projects and also that we have a moral responsibility to keep the borders open while Obama shut everyone else's down.

    And I've said it a million times and I'll say it again, I didn't vote for Trump.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Masterofreality View Post
    Amazing how that is exactly what Liberal Canada did. Ever drive on the fully privately funded and tollled 407 north of Toronto? Genius.

    Canada got a group of investors from Mexico to build a whole new expressway north of the incredibly congested 401. And it is working beautifully. It is totally electronic toll so if you're a Yank like me, they take a pic of your license plate and send you a bill. Great highway with good design and a real time saver.

    You do realize that driving on toll roads is also the go to move in NY, Chicago, New Jersey, and almost all of New England. At least with a new road funded the Canada way, there isn't a capital expenditure required from the state.
    Isn't that what E-470 in Denver is like as far as camera tolls?

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    Atlanta is building an expressway parrallel to I-75 north of town. Several lanes will head south into town during morning rush hour, then change direction and head back north to get people home after work. They'll have some kind of express pass to handle how it's paid. Those hours in between, where lanes are used to go both north and south? I'm sure they are working on the details.

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    Quote Originally Posted by X-band '01 View Post
    Isn't that what E-470 in Denver is like as far as camera tolls?
    Yeah, but I never use it. Costs a ton and is about 5 minutes faster to the Airport from I-25.
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