Netflix Thread

[Xavier]

Following post is complete spoiler- though if you read through the thread you already know.


I think its tough to watch the series and say 100% he was guilty or wasn't. A lot of evidence was left out of the documentary but there was a lot of odd stuff from the prosecution.

The big things that have me questioning: The Key (which apparently didn't have the girls DNA on it but had SA's? Interesting) and the officer who called and asked about the license plate, and the 7 who originally thought not guilty right away.

Key points I found not in the documentary: SA sweat was on the hood of the car, also. His nephew helped clean the garage shortly after and came home with bleach stained pants (Though, I find it hard to believe they could clean everything in the garage and house). He called the company the girl worked for and specifically requested her. He wrote many letters to his wife about how he hated her and wanted to kill her- he actually also said in Easter cards to his kids that he was going to kill there mom. Crazy, though apparently they had a love hate relationship like this.

Couple things I don't believe the judge allowed: He told other inmates when he left he was going to rape and murder girls and explained how he would do it. The girl complained to other workers about him being weird and one time she went he answered the door in only a towel.

If you are interested- I really found most of this on the reddit forum, head there if you really enjoyed the series and want to keep talking about it. Regardless, there seemed to be a lot of shotty stuff from the prosecution. I think its conceivable to believe SA did kill her and at the same time police planted some evidence to help the case. Ultimately, I think there was a lack of evidence to find him guilty, but really cant tell because we didn't get the whole story.

[nuts4xu]

The Ridiculous 6 was about as bad a movie I've seen in a long time. Adam Sandler is not funny.

[Emp]

Yes, how do 7 go from not guilty to guilty beyond reasonable doubt?

Another question, why do we leave the fate of a person's future up to 12 "peers"? Why do people (presumably) uneducated people, with regards to the law, decide someone's guilt or innocence? Why isnt it a panel of judges? Too expensive? Not enough judges? It is so confusing to me. This isnt these people's jobs, by the end of it they just want to leave and go home back to normal life. That is a lot of responsibility that seems like fatigue plays a big art in hurrying a decision. Crazy.

This could take a few years, got time?
Trial by jury was negotiated initially by nobles sick of the "Kings justice." Evolved over centuries to protect us, all of us, from hangin or merely "tough on crime" judges, more often than not former prosecutors.

Jurors, presumably untainted by too much cynicism and presumably neutral, offset the power of the King, or now, the state.

The defendant can always waive trial by jury, but (s)he gets to choose, not the state or the prosecutor.

Juries go amiss, but often get it right with the evidence they do get. The critical person is the judge, his wisdom, knowledge and judgment on what evidence to allow, what to block.

[Xville]

just finished making a murderer...not sure if avery is guilty or not...its definitely possible that he is. However, based on the evidence, I don't know how its possible that he was convicted. To me, there is plenty of reasonable doubt.

I feel bad for Brendan...the kid obviously has disabilities and its pretty sickening what the investigators did. It was an abomination. I really don't know how those investigators sleep at night. Maybe they are psychopaths.

[D-West & PO-Z]

just finished making a murderer...not sure if avery is guilty or not...its definitely possible that he is. However, based on the evidence, I don't know how its possible that he was convicted. To me, there is plenty of reasonable doubt.

I feel bad for Brendan...the kid obviously has disabilities and its pretty sickening what the investigators did. It was an abomination. I really don't know how those investigators sleep at night. Maybe they are psychopaths.

Basically my thoughts as well.

My wife thinks she commited suicide and her body was found and someone planted everything there. That is a little out there and it isnt what I think but she can't get over that weird video of her talking about her death and when she's gone an everything.

Anyone read anything about that video and when it was made/why it was made?

[Nigel Tufnel]

Not Netflix, but did anyone watch The Night Of last night on HBO? Strong premiere episode.

[NY44]

Not Netflix, but did anyone watch The Night Of last night on HBO? Strong premiere episode.

I did and will definitely be watching more.

[Nigel Tufnel]

This is good news...that kid got royally screwed.

http://mobile.nytimes.com/2016/08/13...ww.google.com/

Adnan Syed was granted a new trial too. No way he can be convicted with Jay's inconsistent statements and today's technology completely tearing apart the cell phone data used to convict him. I believe Dassey is innocent and Adnan and Avery are not guilty. There is a difference between those two.

[paulxu]

Saw the first couple of episodes of Goliath on Amazon. Very good so far.

[muskienick]

Saw the first couple of episodes of Goliath on Amazon. Very good so far.

How ironic! My wife and I saw the first two episodes of "Goliath" last night also and really liked it. Billy Bob has always been one of my favorites ("Sling Blade," "Monster's Ball," and "Fargo" are among my three favorite BBT performances. But I must admit that the " complete" presence of Halle Berry in "Monster's Ball" was a huge contributing factor in my enjoyment of that film. I would have to think that Billy Bob enjoyed her participation in the production of that film as well!