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    The election cycle nears..........Snipe's midnight wallpapering/fearmongering ratio increases geometrically. Death, taxes and beserk Snipe are inevitable.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Xville View Post
    No he's not....Dzhokhar Tsarnaev ring a bell? Yeah maybe he wasn't a "refugee" per say but to think we know everything about everyone coming into this country is extremely naive no matter what systems we have in place. The government has failed us over and over and over...why do you have such trust in them and their processes?
    "Does my comparison that I'm admitting isn't comparable at all ring a bell?"
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    Quote Originally Posted by muskienick View Post
    Are you equating "crime" with "Syrian refugees"? If so, shame on you. If not, please explain.
    Jeez, I was responding to Nuts' post (that he doesn't want to live near Muslim savages OR savages of any kind) and the response to said post. It's a simple fact- people don't want to live near crime and people who commit crimes, regardless of race or religion.

    So shame on you.
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    Quote Originally Posted by SemajParlor View Post
    "Does my comparison that I'm admitting isn't comparable at all ring a bell?"
    if you can't see a comparison, I feel sorry for you. Refugee or not, there are processes in place to vet individuals...those processes have failed in the past. Do you really feel that the process for letting refugees in this country are full proof,especially refugees coming from a country that has fought for thousands of years and a large number of the population that disagree with our way of life?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Xville View Post
    That doesn't change the fact that someone can easily slip thru the cracks no matter how stringent some people believe the process is, which is a freaking joke. I think people believing the contrary is pretty naive especially when the people entering our country would be from an area that has basically been fighting for thousands of years, and quite frankly an area of the world that has issues with our way of life and what we stand for.
    Woh boy. Well, I'm interested to hear your example of who slipped "easily" through whatever cracks. I mean, no system for admission to anywhere (be it a country or flight or your movie theater) is perfect, but active terrorists aren't coming to the US through the refugee or asylee program.

    Also, the point of the US asylum/refugee program is to give safe haven to innocent people fleeing harm from their home country on account of an enumerated ground (race, religion, political opinion, etc.), with the important distinction being made between the despotic governments and the people they rule. Ignoring scores of people because they come from difficult parts of the world ignores a basic tenet of the program and the fabric of this country.

    I live in metro-Detroit which has the highest Arab population outside of the middle east. Though the governments of these individuals' countries of origin may feel otherwise, the people certainly have no issues with our way of life. They yearn for it.
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    Quote Originally Posted by kyxu View Post
    Woh boy. Well, I'm interested to hear your example of who slipped "easily" through whatever cracks. I mean, no system for admission to anywhere (be it a country or flight or your movie theater) is perfect, but active terrorists aren't coming to the US through the refugee or asylee program.

    Also, the point of the US asylum/refugee program is to give safe haven to innocent people fleeing harm from their home country on account of an enumerated ground (race, religion, political opinion, etc.), with the important distinction being made between the despotic governments and the people they rule. Ignoring scores of people because they come from difficult parts of the country ignores a basic tenet of the program and the fabric of this country.

    I live in metro-Detroit which has the highest Arab population outside of the middle east. Though the governments of these individuals' countries of origin may feel otherwise, the people certainly have no issues with our way of life. They yearn for it.
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    No process is perfect, and our lapses in national security over the last 20 years are well-documented. But by and large, the refugee vetting process is about as exhaustive as you can get, and the few breaches (which are few, considering the number of refugees the US accepts) are not worth shuttering the program or and do not support Trumps remark that we "have no idea who we're letting in."

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    Quote Originally Posted by kyxu View Post
    No process is perfect, and our lapses in national security over the last 20 years are well-documented. But by and large, the refugee vetting process is about as exhaustive as you can get, and the few breaches (which are few, considering the number of refugees the US accepts) are not worth shuttering the program or and do not support Trumps remark that we "have no idea who we're letting in."
    If there is a chance of one domestic terrorism act because of this refugee program, I absolutely believe it's worth shuttering the program.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Xville View Post
    If there is a chance of one domestic terrorism act because of this refugee program, I absolutely believe it's worth shuttering the program.
    And if there is a chance of one domestic terrorism act because Trump has alienated and "radicalized" any of our population by painting all (potential) immigrants with the same brush, then he should not be President.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Xville View Post
    If there is a chance of one domestic terrorism act because of this refugee program, I absolutely believe it's worth shuttering the program.
    Fair enough. That's where we differ.

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