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Originally Posted by xuphan

The problem with this country are the democrats and republicans who put party affiliation and radical ideology with the support of wealthy donors ahead of what is best for the country. These so called leaders have no professionalism to their constituents and have no accountability for their actions. I don’t expect them to agree on everything but I do expect them to be professional and work together to move this country forward which is seems very few are actually doing.

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Spot on. Sadly, rule #1 for both parties is get reelected. Rule #2 is always blame the other party. We need to get back to the Bill Clinton / Newt Gingrich or Ronald Reagan / Tip O’Neill type of relationships in Washington.

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Originally Posted by xuphan

I’ll leave you with this. Not that long ago, I went to a political speech that was held not far from campus with a Republican friend. While there, I overheard a conversation where a lady in a MAGA hat said the Democrats were more of a threat to United States than other countries such as Russia, and China. I am sure this also happens at Demo events as well but why is there so much hate among our fellow citizens? I still feel like the Democrats and Republicans will draw us into a civil war in the not to distant future if this type of anger and hatred continues.

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I think social media plays a huge role in the divisiveness in the country. The algorithms show you more of what you react to, which just feeds the narrative of how bad the other side is. Meanwhile, I’m sure China is laughing their asses off watching us destroy the country from within.


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The Dow has now joined the S&P and NASDAQ in rising above pre-innaguration levels. Glad we survived that crisis.

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Originally Posted by paulxu

It seems complete understanding of the damage is still a question, with some senators being briefed who note exactly that. I would guess it might be a while before the real answer comes out.
Meanwhile, I see the administration is discussing the same sort of terms as the JCPOA; freeing up Iranian assets, granting loans to start a nuclear program for peaceful purposes as long as enrichment levels remain low, etc.
Just think, we were right there before Trump pulled us out. Well done.

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I can tell you'll be very disappointed if the mission was a success.

It's kind of telling that the military under the Obama administration knew that the need to destroy Fordow was a foregone conclusion. As a matter of fact, they started working on the plan to destroy it from basically his first day in office. This strike was a masterstroke brought to you by the military across four administrations. Well done boys.

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Originally Posted by hoopster68

XUPHAN: Thanks for an insightful comment. I need to point out, however, that it is only the Rethuglicans that have inspired an insurrection, attempted to take away Medicaid for the "least among us" while giving tax breaks to billionaires, and to demonize hard-working aliens in our country. This "what aboutism" must stop; you (and many, many others on this board) need to address your Rethuglican representatives for what they are: stooges. Until that happens, Dems like me will continue to illustrate your two-faced phoniness, attempts to change the topic, and inability to face facts. Kellyanne Conway be damned!

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Democrat lawmakers in March at Trump's Speech rudely interrupting, shouting, yelling and holding paddles that said "Musk Steals" and "That's a lie"

The name calling from you isn't cute or clever and it certainly doesn't belong to only one side of the political aisle.

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Originally Posted by GoMuskies

I can tell you'll be very disappointed if the mission was a success.

It's kind of telling that the military under the Obama administration knew that the need to destroy Fordow was a foregone conclusion. As a matter of fact, they started working on the plan to destroy it from basically his first day in office. This strike was a masterstroke brought to you by the military across four administrations. Well done boys.

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so, here's my question. 16 years ago the idea and strategy for this took place. How much of a threat is it if we can allow 16 years to pass by without enacting the mission?

There was also the murdering of the poor, innocent Waymos!

More seriously, though, the weird infatuation with vandalizing Teslas wasn't great. The general focus on all things race, gender, sexuality, intersectionality, etc. isn't a big selling point for most normies.

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Originally Posted by Xville

so, here's my question. 16 years ago the idea and strategy for this took place. How much of a threat is it if we can allow 16 years to pass by without enacting the mission?

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They knew they'd have to take it out some day. They just waited for he perfect conditions (which the Israelis provided). The statement from Caine that there are other such sites under surveillance around the world was pretty bad ass, too. That guy seems fantastic (unlike his boss).

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Originally Posted by GoMuskies

The Dow has now joined the S&P and NASDAQ in rising above pre-innaguration levels. Glad we survived that crisis.

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I'm sure that will be corrected when Trump does his next round of tariffs before he pulls a TACO.

I'm also sure that people in the inner circle will not be engaging in any potential insider trades based on tariffs whatsoever.

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Originally Posted by hoopster68

XUPHAN: Thanks for an insightful comment. I need to point out, however, that it is only the Rethuglicans that have inspired an insurrection, attempted to take away Medicaid for the "least among us" while giving tax breaks to billionaires, and to demonize hard-working aliens in our country. This "what aboutism" must stop; you (and many, many others on this board) need to address your Rethuglican representatives for what they are: stooges. Until that happens, Dems like me will continue to illustrate your two-faced phoniness, attempts to change the topic, and inability to face facts. Kellyanne Conway be damned!

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What is with the hardline demos and pubs on this board. You call out Trump and the pubs and people like Lou label you as a woke liberal. You call out the dems and people like Hoopster call you a Rethuglican. The problem seems to be political tribalism as these people can’t see the country from a different perspective. My point and I will stick with my point is both parties suck. Both parties in recent times have had the opportunity to be in charge and have failed and failed the American people miserably. If the Dems were so good they would be in charge of all branches of government. However, they are not which leads to the question why aren’t they? Maybe you could answer that for us hoopster.

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Originally Posted by xuphan

both parties suck

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Originally Posted by hoopster68

a fact-filled post is welcome here

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Yes