South Africa's bullshit, I assume you are referring to?Quote:
Originally Posted by Muskie in dayton
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South Africa's bullshit, I assume you are referring to?Quote:
Originally Posted by Muskie in dayton
Yeah, I'm not really sure where to come down on this yet, but South Africa has a pretty clear vested interest in downplaying the severity of Omicron so I think you have to throw out anything they say that is not backed by quantitative evidence. I'm not sure we even know if Omicron has been around long enough for us to see the deaths increase due to the lag time between infection and death.Quote:
Originally Posted by X-man
It would be great if a milder strain became the dominant strain globally though, and would be somewhat consistent with what I understand of viral behavior.
I'm betting on this just being another delta (hopefully) in that the vaccines and prior immunity will continue to protect from severe disease and death. In the meantime I'll keep doing what I'm doing - i.e. being vaccinated, having my kids be vaccinated, and wearing masks in crowded places until there's real evidence for concern.
My wife is on a (full) flight to NYC and was told she will need her vax card to get into the restaurant for tomorrow’s dinner. Interesting how it’s treated so differently from place to place.
Was just in NYC for the X games and everywhere that allowed indoor dining or drinking required you to show your vax card (well a photo of it) and your ID before you were served. You get used to it really quick.Quote:
Originally Posted by xu82
In Hawaii, we were asked to show our vax cards before eating exactly twice in 8 days. I was a little surprised it was so lax there.
I’ve never been asked for my card in Atlanta. Not once. And I eat out at various places almost daily.
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Eating exactly twice in 8 days would be an excellent way to lose weight.
If South Africa were lying about severity they would face serious global consequences. The Doctor that discovered the variant says it’s mild: https://www.newsweek.com/doctor-firs...africa-1653740Quote:
Originally Posted by boozehound
If asked for mine I calmly show it, then tell the manager to fuck off as I take my money elsewhere.Quote:
Originally Posted by GoMuskies
This is precisely why I call him "Dr. Mengele Fauci". He's directly responsible for deaths and near-deaths like these:
A man dying of Covid in an ICU was forced to sue the Chicago Hospital so that they would give him ivermectin. During the hearings, the hospital offered these arguments:
* There could be side effects.
* Ordering ivermectin would violate its policies.
* Forcing the issue would be “extraordinary” judicial overreach.
Fortunately, the hospital lost the case, and began treating the man with ivermectin. Almost immediately he began to recover, and is now alive and well.
https://rescue.substack.com/p/a-judg...-hospital-step
On the flip side of Fauci's policies is this: Amy Bolin said in order to be approved for a double-lung transplant, her husband had to be fully vaccinated for COVID even though he’d had the virus and recovered. After his second Moderna shot, he developed a pulmonary embolism and heart condition and died before he could get new lungs.
https://truthbasedmedia.com/2021/11/...-moderna-shot/
This is pure evil! Fauci has no interest whatsoever in saving lives - he's only cares about money. These aren't isolated examples of his treachery. There are numerous examples just like these. Why are so many elite athletes dying, or quitting their profession due to heart problems? Why are heart issues rising rapidly among young kids and teenagers all of a sudden?
Ugh…….here we go again.
Yawn. By the looks of arenas, concerts, airplanes, vacation destinations, cruises, football stadiums, bars, restaurants and anything else with alot of people - no one cares anymore.Quote:
Originally Posted by xu82
Hmmm...., Lara Logan just said that people all over the world are comparing Fauci to Dr. Mengele: https://www.thegatewaypundit.com/202...y-fauci-video/
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Originally Posted by drudy23
Lou disagrees.
University of Oxford Professor Jim Naismith asserts that despite England dropping its mask mandate in July and Scotland keeping its rules in force, official data shows this “has made no meaningful difference” to infection rates:
https://summit.news/2021/11/30/oxfor...fection-rates/
We all new that already, right?
Yes - time to move on. Let people do what they want.Quote:
Originally Posted by XU_Lou
I totally agree - unfortunately there are many in government who will not allow us to do what we want. Biden and Fauci are talking possible lockdowns again, vaccine mandates for airline travel, vaccine mandates for companies with >100 employees, etc. The governor of Mass just came out yesterday and said there are 15-20 states working on a QR code vax pass system.Quote:
Originally Posted by drudy23
So, yes, you're absolutely right that it is time to move on. This is complete hysteria over a manageable problem that is purposely being mismanaged. Since the powers that be continue to infringe on our rights, the fight will continue.
I haven't had much of a life altering change since the beginning of this thing. Most people have continued to do what they want.Quote:
Originally Posted by XU_Lou
Don't you have to show something just to get into Hawaii though?Quote:
Originally Posted by GoMuskies
I was just in LAX on Sunday and there was a flight to Hawaii near our gate and they kept announcing about uploading you vax card or something.
Again, I agree with you. But it all depends on where you live, and where you want to travel to.Quote:
Originally Posted by drudy23
I travel all over the country for work. In the last 90 days I've been in TX, CA (twice) , FL, OH, COQuote:
Originally Posted by XU_Lou
No one is doing anything. Sure they may have mask mandates, but very, very few are actually enforcing them.
95% of the people are ready to move on.
The virus is going to persist and develop new strains.
Do whatever YOU need to do and deal with the consequences of your choices.
The irony, I'm on head cold # 2 already.
Yes, you had to show vax or negative test to get into Hawaii. But test doesn't work for indoor dining. Has to be vax (in theory; but, as noted, often not in practice).Quote:
Originally Posted by D-West & PO-Z
Gotcha. So in theory you can not be vaxxed, just tested, go to Hawaii, and not be allowed to eat (at least dine in) while there?Quote:
Originally Posted by GoMuskies
CorrectQuote:
Originally Posted by D-West & PO-Z
But also almost nowhere there is fully enclosed (or at least it seems that way), so I'm not QUITE sure what "indoor dining" even means there.
Ah, the business traveler head cold. I started taking Zicam before flights (Oct-May) to keep those away.Quote:
Originally Posted by bleedXblue
does it actually work?Quote:
Originally Posted by Strange Brew
It seemed to for me.Quote:
Originally Posted by bleedXblue
https://www.cnn.com/2021/11/30/media...gue/index.html
Happy to see everyone condemning the Fauci/Mengele comparison!!!
Mengele is a little harsh (and inflammatory) however it's not that far off if you know the man's history.Quote:
Originally Posted by 94GRAD
I'm not sure your definition of "that far off" and mine(or most people) are the same.Quote:
Originally Posted by Strange Brew
SeriouslyQuote:
Originally Posted by 94GRAD
WTF? As Johnny Mac would say, "You can't be serious!".Quote:
Originally Posted by Strange Brew
What in the actual F is wrong with you?Quote:
Originally Posted by Strange Brew
No kidding. Silver lining though - when people make comments like that, you know you don't have to take anything else that they say seriously.Quote:
Originally Posted by 94GRAD
Exactly! That’s a clear indicator. WTF?Quote:
Originally Posted by boozehound
Nothing at all. Some of his previous work is grotesque.Quote:
Originally Posted by Xville
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Originally Posted by Strange Brew
Wow that got everyone worked up.. Think he was trying to say Fauci is an idiot and liar in which he is
AND, he compared him to Mengele. Did you mis that part? I’m not commenting on Fauci, just the ridiculous comparison. Do YOU think that is an appropriate comparison?Quote:
Originally Posted by xuwillie
He is and his work with NYC orphans in the 80s is questionable at best, inhumane and disgusting at worst. The BBC did a documentary on it that never ran in the states.Quote:
Originally Posted by xuwillie
I'll help you 82. Fauci experimented on NYC orphans leading to dozens of deaths. Mengele also experimented on humans on a much larger scale because his Socialist gov't sanctioned it.
Also, Fauci exacerbated the HIV/AIDS scare in the 80/90s.
The guy is a borderline sociopath.
There is a difference between mistakes and pure evil.