Politics Thread

The notion that our military is depleted is pure right-wing fiction. This is just another pay-off to line the pockets of the defense contractors who donate to GOP campaigns.

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Originally Posted by Masterofreality

Depends if some of it is to increase the Enlisted Folks pay/ PTSD treatment, VA support.

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This would not be military spending, but money appropriated for the VA. Defense (DOD) and VA are entirely separate entities for funding and appropriations (which is a YUGE, YUGE mistake IMHO). These two entities should be tightly interwoven so care NEVER stops AND doesn't require a new entity (VA) to verify that which is already in the veterans health record when they separate before paying benefits and providing treatment.

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Originally Posted by muskiefan82

This would not be military spending, but money appropriated for the VA. Defense (DOD) and VA are entirely separate entities for funding and appropriations (which is a YUGE, YUGE mistake IMHO). These two entities should be tightly interwoven so care NEVER stops AND doesn't require a new entity (VA) to verify that which is already in the veterans health record when they separate before paying benefits and providing treatment.

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Good point. His budget must also include a boost for the VA, because I was going off this sentence from the WSJ article about the proposed boost in military spending (that, on second look, apply to three different parts of the budget): "The budget proposal would prioritize border security, care for military veterans and “school choice,” without adding to the deficit, Mr. Mulvaney said."

Good WSJ article re media outrage hypocrisy.
https://www.wsj.com/articles/trump-a...dia-1488223333

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Originally Posted by Masterofreality

You may not like what Trump is "leading" toward, but there is an interesting NBC News/Wall Street Journal poll today.

NBC/WSJ poll: Who should take the lead in setting policy for the US?

Trump + Hill GOP: 52%
Hill Democrats: 37%

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Despite all of the negative press, the country seems to trust the Republicans more. And The Dems- especially Nancy Pelosi are the most unpopular politicians...although Mitch McConnell is right there too.

I'll REALLY be interested to see if NBC, which has become much more leftist in its reporting recently, actually shows this on tonight's newscast....of will they just bury it like they did many of the foibles of Obama. The poll doesn't quite fit their Chuck Todd narrative.

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Well, that question was answered. 3 lead stories taking potshots at the Administration about Russia, Yemen and the budget..which by the Way, Obama didn't bother to submit for many years....laced with a bunch of opinion but few facts, and ZERO about these NBC/WSJ generated polls.

Methinks, that if the polls were reversed there would have been 15 minutes covering how "America was dismayed, discouraged and disillusioned". If this isn't a case of aggressive media bias, I don't know what is.

Trump wants compromise immigration bill: reports - The Hill

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Trump envisions a proposal that would allow some undocumented immigrants live and work in the U.S. without fear of deportation, but would stop short of offering them a pathway to citizenship.

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Why didn't any conservatives praise Obama for having the same policy at the beginning of his presidency? Why are conservatives not crying foul now??

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Originally Posted by GoMuskies

"The budget proposal would prioritize border security, care for military veterans and “school choice,” without adding to the deficit, Mr. Mulvaney said."

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Well as far as military spending goes, Trump wants 54b increase (Mc Cain wants much more) while Mick's Tea Party wants to cut that much or more, so I would guess nothing gets done as usual.

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Originally Posted by Caf

Trump wants compromise immigration bill: reports - The Hill



Why didn't any conservatives praise Obama for having the same policy at the beginning of his presidency? Why are conservatives not crying foul now??

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I assume the liberal praise will come pouring in for Trump any time now.

In other news, who gives a fuck what "conservatives" said or didn't say when Obama was in office and what "liberals" are saying or not saying now compared to what they said when Obama was in office? It's a particularly obnoxious game.

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Originally Posted by GoMuskies

I assume the liberal praise will come pouring in for Trump any time now.

In other news, who gives a fuck what "conservatives" said or didn't say when Obama was in office and what "liberals" are saying or not saying now compared to what they said when Obama was in office? It's a particularly obnoxious game.

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Yeah you're right. Better to judge things on their face rather than constantly comparing them to prior administrations.

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Originally Posted by Caf

Yeah you're right. Better to judge things on their face rather than constantly comparing them to prior administrations.

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Yes, I know it's a game both sides play. I just personally find it annoying. At least find the same person saying different things (like Obama on gay marriage....or Trump on virtually anything), because neither "side" speaks in unison.