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  1. #11
    Quote Originally Posted by IM4X View Post
    Unfortunately, we are talking about many players take those shots who have been shooting well below 30% in games and likely below 30% in practice the rim.
    Obviously you admit that you do not know what they shoot in practice.

    Tyrique Jones does NOT shoot 3's most likely because he is unreliable in practice.

    4 games into the season and over 20 practices too tell the coaches who can shoot. If nobody here watches and evaluates practices, then we only know 25% of the capability of players.

    Just like EVERY year, X and 300 other schools take time to gel and understand roles. We all know these are not paid professional players. They are 18-23 year olds who spend 10-20 hours in the gym to get stronger and understand each other.

    X like Duke, Virginia, Florida, Auburn, etc. is shooting horribly but X is NOT turning the ball over like so many other teams.
    I am not worried or concerned about the offense. I hope the defense gets superb and the X team continues to get fouled and make free throws.

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    Quote Originally Posted by WCWIII View Post
    How much of the low 3PT% is due to the added pressure of knowing this is an area where they can potentially struggle - pressure from media and fans?

    Steele has been right on, in my opinion, emphasizing taking good shots, catching with 2 hands, ... concrete things that by themselves allow for better success. A couple of years ago, fans were down on the free throw shooting and we had a miserable year in that area ... remember how quiet it got when Tyrique made a FT attempt? Give him lots of credit for improving in that area. The point is, the players hear the fans and the media ... Coach Steele's response is about doing the things that will make the team better and not about validating the obvious from critical fans. We got so much talent, there is no way we will be 344/353 in 3 pt shooting by the end of the season. I can't wait for this team to show us wrong, improve their shooting, and use all the other talents to really break through like they did at the end of last season.

    On KenPom's blog earlier this summer is a study that concludes the following ... for a close game at half-time, the most telling statistic for the eventual outcome is that the team with the "Lowest 3PT%" has the best chance of winning. Sounds contradictory, but an interesting read.
    Virginia (ranked #9 in AP and coaches poll) is the worst 3 point shooting team in the nation. They look very good from my standpoint. Their fans probably are very stressed out.

  3. #13
    One thing that cannot be taught is experience. Q is the most experienced player on the team. He plays the best defense and knows every single play.
    I want him at pg this year. He is stopping his number of 3 point attempts. His leadership with Jones and talking to all while running the team is irreplaceable.
    kyKy is learning the pg position this year. It will take him at least 2 months for the game to slow down for his brain like all frosh.
    X will be very dangerous in February/March. Like all teams, X will struggle to find areas to be awesome at this early. 4-0 is good. Better to be lucky than good, sometimes.

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    D1 level players should be able to consistently drop open 3's - we've had a ton of wide open misses. That doesn't give me alot of confidence that the percentages will rise. It would be different if we were missing contested and tough threes, but we've had a TON of wide open looks and they're still this bad percentage wise.

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    Quote Originally Posted by D-West & PO-Z View Post
    Yeah I get what Steele is trying to say but think hes kidding himself if he doesnt truly have an issue with any of the 3 point shots being taken and by whom.

    Theres plenty of good looks that X has just missed that I would agree you keep taking them. But who is taking them has to be addressed I would think. Not every open 3 is a good look if you are no good at shooting.

    I really think this team could be so much better served with Scruggs starting at PG and Goodin coming off the bench. I just dont think Steele would do that to Goodin. Mack sure as hell would. Steele is still a young coach so I know he has so much room to grow as a coach but I dont see that killer win at all costs mentality in him yet that we did in Mack. I know we didnt see that in Mack in the beginning either.

    I think Mack would have already benched Goodin (still played, just removed from starting lineup) but, enough about Judas. I think Steele is going to be a really good coach, just wish he seemed to have total control over the team a little more than it does at times.
    Steele has said after multiple games this year they need to be more mature and better in shot selection. I think he just snapped because he’s tired of the question. We’re not really shooting a ton of threes or even that many bad threes. We’re something around 200th for number of threes a game. He has to believe they’ll start falling. There’s almost no way a team can shoot this poorly

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    Quote Originally Posted by American X View Post
    "Yeah, I don’t care about 3-point shots. I don’t care. I don’t flinch. We’re going to take those all night long. I do not care. What I do care about is the turnovers."

    Mick Cronin Lite doesn't flinch at bricking 20 threes a game. What a leader. He does not care. He is the Honey Badger of Big East coaches.
    Players can’t control missed shots. They can control turnovers. That’s the point. Trying to give his players confidence offensively is the opposite of mick cronin.

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    A lot of those threes X missed on Friday were wide open looks.

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    Quote Originally Posted by American X View Post
    "Yeah, I don’t care about 3-point shots. I don’t care. I don’t flinch. We’re going to take those all night long. I do not care. What I do care about is the turnovers."

    Mick Cronin Lite doesn't flinch at bricking 20 threes a game. What a leader. He does not care. He is the Honey Badger of Big East coaches.
    Q shot 8 shots Friday night. NONE of them inside the arc. He shot 25%. No attempt by your point guard vs a zone to get penetration, to draw the defense and get to the hoop or kick to a better shooter. That is VERY flinch-worthy. That is also "settling" rather than being aggressive. This from a guy who couldn't shoot 29% all last year. It's not isolated, but long term reality.
    I respect Steele not throwing his player under the bus, but on this board, we can talk about reality and it IS concerning.
    By the way. Bad shots by bad shooters is just like a turnover and against better teams, we're not gonna get those offensive rebounds. Steele has to recognize and fix this.
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    Teams are crowding the paint on us and daring us to shoot the 3 ball. This HAS to be a concern for Coach. How many times have we seen Tyrique battling 3 defenders down low.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Masterofreality View Post
    Q shot 8 shots Friday night. NONE of them inside the arc. He shot 25%. No attempt by your point guard vs a zone to get penetration, to draw the defense and get to the hoop or kick to a better shooter. That is VERY flinch-worthy. That is also "settling" rather than being aggressive. This from a guy who couldn't shoot 29% all last year. It's not isolated, but long term reality.
    I respect Steele not throwing his player under the bus, but on this board, we can talk about reality and it IS concerning.
    By the way. Bad shots by bad shooters is just like a turnover and against better teams, we're not gonna get those offensive rebounds. Steele has to recognize and fix this.
    Q is one of our best shooters so far. so things are going well

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