Brackets and Rankings: 2024-2025

[Xville]

I think it's pure group think. They all copy off of each other. All it takes is for a couple of people who normally score really high to project Indiana in, and then whoever looks at that person's picks will start to look at Indiana and then they'll select them, and so on, and so on, and so on.

Maybe Indiana gets in and maybe they don't. But, in terms of the real committee, they haven't "moved up." That's just not how they do it.

And, from what I understand....they're done selecting the field. Today's games do matter, especially the Memphis game because that's likely the only game where one team has already been selected and the other hasn't, and whoever was selected as that last contingency team won't get in if Memphis loses. So, I guess we'll see.

I don't think any of the bracketologists actually know. Unless they know someone on the committee or an NCAA staffer that's in the room and told them (which I suppose is possible, but I don't think it's very probable), they're just guessing.

So...my advice is to not get too bent out of shape about how Indiana has moved up, because they really haven't.

Yeah I understand which is why I said bookmakers and bracketologists and not the committee. I still think it’s really stupid, and I have never seen that happen before, ever by bracketologists, it’s just very strange and maybe it gives some credence to large fanbase close to Dayton.

[xubrew]

As much as it kind of sucks that Xavier is straddling the bubble, this is all still great! Everyone is dialed in to all the different bracket projections and discussing whether teams should be in our out...It's good for the game!! That's why I say I like Bracketology even in October. I don't buy into it at all, but it's fun to look at and fun to talk about all season long, and it really does manufacture a ton of interest in the sport.

[xubrew]

Xavier should probably root for VCU. It's possible they'll get selected even if they lose, whereas George Mason has about as much chance of getting selected as I do of being named sexiest male of the year. Having said that, VCU has the profile that past committees have claimed to hate. They did not play a strong schedule, they made no attempt to schedule (they ran four ads on Basketball Travelers where they were only looking for home buy games, and one of them actually stated they wanted a sub250 NET Opponent) and they beat no one that's anywhere near the field. I think they won at Dayton, and that's their entire profile. UC Irvine probably won't get in either, but I think they're both better and more deserving than VCU. They won 14 true road games, which is insane, won 18 games away from home, and tried to schedule teams.

[HenryMuto]

I think it is 2 spots for 5 teams

Xavier
Indiana
UNC
Boise St
Texas

I feel like Texas should be out based on 19-15 overall record and their non conf SOS 287 but what gives them hope is 7 quad 1 wins SOR 53 WAB 46

I feel like UNC should be out based on 1-12 vs quad 1 and only winning 1 game vs NCAA at large quality team (vs UCLA) but their metrics are high NET 36 and Their Torv is actually better than Xavier 36 to 37 so if Xavier is in why wouldn't UNC ? SOR 38 WAB 43

I feel like Boise St should be out because that would make an insane 5 MWC teams and 4 seems like too many as it is but they have wins over Clemson and St Mary's (also have a Q3 and Q4 losses though) SOR 55 WAB 53

I feel like Indiana should be in based on wins at Michigan St and home vs Purdue and KPI is 35 but their NET is 54 and Torv is 5 SOR 50 WAB 48

I feel like Xavier should be in based on 3 wins vs field and SOR 42 and Torv 37 but their KPI is 60 and WAB 49

So who knows I don't know one does what we do know is if Memphis loses then only 1 of these teams are getting in

If VCU loses they might be out or in who knows

[Xavier]

That’s a good break down. The other thing to remember with Texas is they got 2 big wins in the conference tournament. With a record like that, you need to do work before hand (see Texas A&M). But you’ve seen committee reward “who you beat” and 7 Q1 is a good argument.

I really don’t see how UNC would get the nod. If it were me I’d probably say Texas, Indiana, and X are the battle for last 2. But think it will be more Boise/Indiana/Xavier. Texas getting the conference tournament treatment.

I thought I saw somewhere the committee said the public is looking too much at Q1 results, where Q1/2 is important.

[Xville]

Well, one more bid thief to worry about. Been about as good a situation for x as possible since Thursday

[HenryMuto]

VCU hangs on as GM 3 goes in and out at the end that would tied it.

It kind of sucked to have to root for VCU in such a good game I would been fine with GM winning if Xavier wasn't on bubble or if you told me VCU would be 100% out if they lost

Now the big one sucks bad to have to rely on Memphis winning they are only 3 point favorite.

The worst of the worst is to sweat out all these games and then have Memphis choke it away then they show us as the first team out.

[HenryMuto]

Why do I got the feeling Memphis is going to blow this

[HenryMuto]

This guy is one of the best at matrix he has Xavier 1st team out updated after 4 PM ET

https://bracketville.wordpress.com/seed-list/

He has last 2 in

Indiana
Texas

First 3 out

Xavier
UNC
Boise St

[HenryMuto]

This guy is #7 overall on bracket matrix in the past 5 years he doesn't have Xavier anywhere close to making it 4th out behind Ohio St WTF

https://hoopshd.com/

Last 2 in

Indiana
Boise St

First 4 out

UNC
Ohio St
Texas
Xavier