Conference carousel to start spinning again?

[X-band '01]

I would also have to think that Hawai'i and UNLV now become primary targets for the Pac-N. Utah State and New Mexico would likely be next in line.

[xubrew]

The PAC 12 should go after Hawaii and UConn as football only members. Those two belong in the same conference!!

[XUGRAD80]

I would also have to think that Hawai'i and UNLV now become primary targets for the Pac-N. Utah State and New Mexico would likely be next in line.

Utah St has accepted an offer to join the PAC

[Xville]

Interesting that Air Force and unlv had pledged to stay in the mountain west for bigger payouts, but now that’s blown up. I assume we will see that unlv accept their pac invitation in a few days.

[xubrew]

Memphis, Tulane, South Florida and UT-San Antonio are turning down the revamped Pac-12 to stay in the American.

Meanwhile, other Mountain West schools are basically deciding whether or not to remain loyal and renew their grant of rights. Also hearing that Gonzaga will be joining the Pac-12 and get a full share of revenue even without football.

Someone must have told them Larry Scott was returning along with the Pac 12. If that's the case, then I don't blame them!

[MHettel]

This is a whole new level of cutthroat at this point.

The MWC could have just ignored the PAC 2 last year and instead decided to save their asses by offering a scheduling agreement. In that Agreement, the MWC locked up an "anti-poaching" clause which I guess made sense. But Frankly the Pac 2 had no path forward. If they wanted to remain, they would need to pick up 6 teams. Didnt the MWC see realize that they would be the target of Pac 2 expansion? They could have let them starve to death with no football opponents.

Then recently, they start discussing "in good faith" the extension of the football scheduling deal. And then the next thing you know, 4 teams jump ship. So why would these teams do that? they KNOW that it takes 8 teams to be a conference. Why jump ship without some assurances? And how did the Pac 2 have these targeted discussions with 4 members of the MWC without arising suspicions of the others? Presumably, assurances were given to Boise et al that there were other members-to-be lined up for the Pac 12.

Then Memphis and some other garbage from the AAC were rumored. But the AAC squashed that. then Air Force was being courted by the AAC. Then it looked like the MWC was going to stick together, but Utah State (of all teams) defected to the Pac 2. My guess is that the Pac 2 wasnt even talking to Utah State, but Utah State realized they would get left behind in a mortally wounded MWC if they did nothing so they approached the Pac 2 and asked to join knowing that the Pac 2 would see that as a death blow to the MWC and would kill their alliance. UNLV is now freed up and looking around for options.

I can IMAGINE how many promises and assurances have been broken. This is like Mafia warfare.

Usually these types of decisions are fully analyzed and methodically decided upon. I assume each University Board has simply delegated the responsibility to make snap decisions to the President and AD. One minute a team is pledging allegence to their existing conference and later that day they are accepted into a different conference.

Absolute CHAOS. I see the Pac 2 grabbing Gonzaga and St Marys (as reported), and then UNLV will commit. Thats all they need (8). Would they make a run at Cal and Stanford? Is Hawaii in the mix (great for TV because all their home games are on at a time when there are no other games and lord knows that the gamblers LOVE to bet on everything)...

[GoMuskies]

Cal and Stanford aren't going back to that unless and until the ACC explodes. And there's zero chance the Pac-2/6/7 is interested in Hawaii.

[xubrew]

This is a whole new level of cutthroat at this point.

The MWC could have just ignored the PAC 2 last year and instead decided to save their asses by offering a scheduling agreement. In that Agreement, the MWC locked up an "anti-poaching" clause which I guess made sense. But Frankly the Pac 2 had no path forward. If they wanted to remain, they would need to pick up 6 teams. Didnt the MWC see realize that they would be the target of Pac 2 expansion? They could have let them starve to death with no football opponents.

Then recently, they start discussing "in good faith" the extension of the football scheduling deal. And then the next thing you know, 4 teams jump ship. So why would these teams do that? they KNOW that it takes 8 teams to be a conference. Why jump ship without some assurances? And how did the Pac 2 have these targeted discussions with 4 members of the MWC without arising suspicions of the others? Presumably, assurances were given to Boise et al that there were other members-to-be lined up for the Pac 12.

Then Memphis and some other garbage from the AAC were rumored. But the AAC squashed that. then Air Force was being courted by the AAC. Then it looked like the MWC was going to stick together, but Utah State (of all teams) defected to the Pac 2. My guess is that the Pac 2 wasnt even talking to Utah State, but Utah State realized they would get left behind in a mortally wounded MWC if they did nothing so they approached the Pac 2 and asked to join knowing that the Pac 2 would see that as a death blow to the MWC and would kill their alliance. UNLV is now freed up and looking around for options.

I can IMAGINE how many promises and assurances have been broken. This is like Mafia warfare.

Usually these types of decisions are fully analyzed and methodically decided upon. I assume each University Board has simply delegated the responsibility to make snap decisions to the President and AD. One minute a team is pledging allegence to their existing conference and later that day they are accepted into a different conference.

Absolute CHAOS. I see the Pac 2 grabbing Gonzaga and St Marys (as reported), and then UNLV will commit. Thats all they need (8). Would they make a run at Cal and Stanford? Is Hawaii in the mix (great for TV because all their home games are on at a time when there are no other games and lord knows that the gamblers LOVE to bet on everything)...

In regards to the sentence that's in bold...

You're joking...right??

[waggy]

Memphis, according to three people close to the discussions, had actually engaged the Big East last week to explore the possibility of joining in basketball and other sports while going to the Pac-12 in football only. But given the quick timeframe, concerns about fit from the Big East side (the league is all private Catholic schools except UConn) and the lack of certainty about Pac-12 money, Memphis had little choice but to recommit to the AAC for now.

https://www.usatoday.com/story/sport...c/75354941007/

[MHettel]

In regards to the sentence that's in bold...

You're joking...right??

I dont get it. Look at the process that Uconn has gone through over an extended period of time trying to get into the B12. And they went so far as to take a vote. Usually if you clearly dont have the votes, then no vote is taken. The fact that they voted and barely missed speaks to the analysis that was done.

what am I missing?