Politics Thread

[GoMuskies]

Excellent, paul. Lou had already been putting in the work getting the extreme right-wing rhetoric out there. I thought you deserved equal time.

[BandAid]

Is there proof the shooter was mentally ill?

I mean he just tried to assassinate a major party nominee.

Yeah you’re right. Mentally healthy people try to assasinate a presidential candidate.

If someone legitimately believes democracy is at stake, wouldn't it make complete logical sense to kill the man responsible?

If you answer "no," it means you either (A) don't believe democracy is at stake, (B) you don't have faith in your convictions, or (C) you're a coward who would rather watch America die.
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Or to put it in a different abstract context: if you could go back in time and kill Hitler or Lenin (or some other terrible dictator) would you do it? If you answer "yes," does that make you mentally ill?
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(But thought exercises aside, this guy probably had a mental illness.)

[STL_XUfan]

If someone legitimately believes democracy is at stake, wouldn't it make complete logical sense to kill the man responsible?

If you answer "no," it means you either (A) don't believe democracy is at stake, (B) you don't have faith in your convictions, or (C) you're a coward who would rather watch America die.
__________

Or to put it in a different abstract context: if you could go back in time and kill Hitler or Lenin (or some other terrible dictator) would you do it? If you answer "yes," does that make you mentally ill?
__________

(But thought exercises aside, this guy probably had a mental illness.)

The non-mentally disturbed would use basic logic to determine that an assassination would make him a martyr and do more harm for your cause than good. The only way to beat the threat that Trump poses is by beating him and his ideas up and down the ballot.

[Xville]

If someone legitimately believes democracy is at stake, wouldn't it make complete logical sense to kill the man responsible?

If you answer "no," it means you either (A) don't believe democracy is at stake, (B) you don't have faith in your convictions, or (C) you're a coward who would rather watch America die.
__________

Or to put it in a different abstract context: if you could go back in time and kill Hitler or Lenin (or some other terrible dictator) would you do it? If you answer "yes," does that make you mentally ill?
__________

(But thought exercises aside, this guy probably had a mental illness.)

If someone seriously believes "democracy is at stake," I'd question their mental fitness. I don't even think the extreme whackjobs in congress or media believe it, they just say it because they know it will bring clicks/rile up their base and keep "them" in power.

In addition, I do agree with what a few others are saying that media is culpable here, I don't believe it's all on one side though...both sides have issues.

[Muskie in dayton]

I listened to Biden's statement last night. So, the guy who has spent the last four years comparing Trump to Hitler, calls his supporters the greatest threat to America, telling the country that Trump is a "dictator that will end democracy", and is currently instilling fear in people with the "Trump project 2025" lie now wants to cool the temperature on our political divide? Fuck you. Are you really shocked that some shithead kid believed you and took the action you and other Democrats have been asking for? There are plenty more just waiting to get a shot because of you your piece-of-shit Democrat party.

How about this: come clean and apologize for your shitty lies and fear-mongering and focus your campaign on truth and policy? I know why.

And before one of you here responds with "...but Trump", think long and hard if you are about to parrot one of your media hoaxes.

[bjf123]

If someone seriously believes "democracy is at stake," I'd question their mental fitness. I don't even think the extreme whackjobs in congress or media believe it, they just say it because they know it will bring clicks/rile up their base and keep "them" in power.

In addition, I do agree with what a few others are saying that media is culpable here, I don't believe it's all on one side though...both sides have issues.

This. It’s all about viewers, clicks, and causing the useful idiots on your side of the aisle to grossly overreact. The sky is falling! The sky is falling! Regardless of who is elected in November, the sun will still come up every morning. Our democracy (not that we’re a true democracy) will continue to exist.

If both sides, and the media, had any moral compass, they’d all apologize for the inflammatory rhetoric they’re all guilty of using. Plenty of those of the Left and in the MSM are calling Trump the next Hitler. You have Biden saying something about putting a bullseye on Trump. Some whack job on the Right talked about the coming revolution if Trump isn’t elected. Schumer saying "You won't know what hit you if you go forward with these awful decisions." talking about Justice Kavanaugh. Just stop. Of course, there’s a better chance of me winning the Powerball than any of them apologizing.


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[Muskie in dayton]

If someone seriously believes "democracy is at stake," I'd question their mental fitness.

You have identified a majority of Democrats as insane.

[xuphan]

You have identified a majority of Democrats as insane.

Id say he has identified the majority of staunch democrats and republicans.

[Xville]

I listened to Biden's statement last night. So, the guy who has spent the last four years comparing Trump to Hitler, calls his supporters the greatest threat to America, telling the country that Trump is a "dictator that will end democracy", and is currently instilling fear in people with the "Trump project 2025" lie now wants to cool the temperature on our political divide? Fuck you. Are you really shocked that some shithead kid believed you and took the action you and other Democrats have been asking for? There are plenty more just waiting to get a shot because of you your piece-of-shit Democrat party.

How about this: come clean and apologize for your shitty lies and fear-mongering and focus your campaign on truth and policy? I know why.

And before one of you here responds with "...but Trump", think long and hard if you are about to parrot one of your media hoaxes.

You're either really stupid, or completely ignorant to one side of the aisle.

Here is just one example....

On truth social..Trump retweeted this form one of his suporters: " will have to figure out how to stop 80+ it's not going to happen again. People my age and old will physically fight for him this time, What we got to lose? I'll donate the rest of my time here on this planet to do it. And I know many others who feel the same. They got my 6 and we are locked and loaded."

[Xville]

This. It’s all about viewers, clicks, and causing the useful idiots on your side of the aisle to grossly overreact. The sky is falling! The sky is falling! Regardless of who is elected in November, the sun will still come up every morning. Our democracy (not that we’re a true democracy) will continue to exist.

If both sides, and the media, had any moral compass, they’d all apologize for the inflammatory rhetoric they’re all guilty of using. Plenty of those of the Left and in the MSM are calling Trump the next Hitler. You have Biden saying something about putting a bullseye on Trump. Some whack job on the Right talked about the coming revolution if Trump isn’t elected. Schumer saying "You won't know what hit you if you go forward with these awful decisions." talking about Justice Kavanaugh. Just stop. Of course, there’s a better chance of me winning the Powerball than any of them apologizing.


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