2023 College Basketball Transfer Portal

[MHettel]

I can certainly see picking Seattle over Cincinnati and South Bend.

Uh, recrutiing in Seattle in Late June is a GOLD MINE. 9 months out of the year, is drizzly and dark. But it would be hard to not be impressed with the UW campus in the summer.

[webxu]

Uh, recrutiing in Seattle in Late June is a GOLD MINE. 9 months out of the year, is drizzly and dark. But it would be hard to not be impressed with the UW campus in the summer.

Agree with this.. stopped and and did a tour of UW last July for my 16 year old, had some time to kill after a cruise, and it is a BEAUTIFUL campus.

[sirthought]

If he has $200K fall into his lap for doing something he's already been doing...you could buy a house, a car, invest it in a 401K, etc...that could certainly change the course of his life no matter what he does in the future. Doesn't make him rich for life, but a lot of people take years to acquire that wealth. So if he's not a push at this stage for the NBA draft, he certainly should take the best offer he can for a year of college hoops.

[Masterofreality]

If he has $200K fall into his lap for doing something he's already been doing...you could buy a house, a car, invest it in a 401K, etc...that could certainly change the course of his life no matter what he does in the future. Doesn't make him rich for life, but a lot of people take years to acquire that wealth. So if he's not a push at this stage for the NBA draft, he certainly should take the best offer he can for a year of college hoops.

But see. 94 Grad already pointed out, this was $200k MORE than he was being offered by X and others.
I wonder if Sean has changed his opinion on the NIL since I asked him about it a year ago?

[xavierj]

But see. 94 Grad already pointed out, this was $200k MORE than he was being offered by X and others.
I wonder if Sean has changed his opinion on the NIL since I asked him about it a year ago?

My guess is no. I just don’t think being the highest bidder will make great teams. I mean UCONN didn’t pay out a bunch for NIL last year and won it all. I think NIL is a bigger deal in the transfer market and I also think a ton of transfer portal guys are overrated. For example Xavier landed Quincy and I would take him over Mulcahy and Krisa. I can’t believe West Virginia and Washington paid what they did to get those guys. You don’t have to over pay to find good teammates that can help you win and I think Sean knows that. Find what what works for you rather than just pay a bunch of overrated dudes to play for you. Desperate programs think they have to pay high dollars to be good.

One other thing. If these transfer portal guys were all that, why are they getting pay days in college but most are not even on NBA radars?

[XUGRAD80]

One other thing. If these transfer portal guys were all that, why are they getting pay days in college but most are not even on NBA radars?

The college and professional businesses are two different business models. You are correct that only about 1-2% will ever make it to the NBA, but that doesn’t mean that they aren’t valuable personnel for the college programs, or to those who are providing the NIL dollars. They are getting pay days in college because someone sees a value in doing so. Just because someone doesn’t make it to the elite of the elite level doesn’t mean that they are bad players. Just like teams that don’t win national championships are therefore bad teams. There are tons of really really good players all around the world that will never make it in the NBA for one reason or another.

I will agree that “buying” a championship team is probably not going to happen on a regular basis. I think that UK is a prime example of there being no quick shortcut to development of players and a team. I also agree that Miller has a good idea of the type of players that he wants to build his TEAMS with.

[xavierj]

The college and professional businesses are two different business models. You are correct that only about 1-2% will ever make it to the NBA, but that doesn’t mean that they aren’t valuable personnel for the college programs, or to those who are providing the NIL dollars. They are getting pay days in college because someone sees a value in doing so. Just because someone doesn’t make it to the elite of the elite level doesn’t mean that they are bad players. Just like teams that don’t win national championships are therefore bad teams. There are tons of really really good players all around the world that will never make it in the NBA for one reason or another.

I will agree that “buying” a championship team is probably not going to happen on a regular basis. I think that UK is a prime example of there being no quick shortcut to development of players and a team. I also agree that Miller has a good idea of the type of players that he wants to build his TEAMS with.

I agree but I also didn’t say they were bad players, just think overvalued at the college level. I think people get so caught up in the transfer portal and make guys in the portal out to be better than they are.

[XUGRAD80]

I think people get so caught up in the transfer portal and make guys in the portal out to be better than they are.

It’s a problem with ALL recruits……freshman or transfers.

[MHettel]

I agree but I also didn’t say they were bad players, just think overvalued at the college level. I think people get so caught up in the transfer portal and make guys in the portal out to be better than they are.

I disagree with this. Nearly every transfer that has come to XU has essentially been the same player that he was at his prior schools. Go back to Travis Taylor, or Isiah Philmore, or Matt Stainbrook, or any number of other transfers to XU. You could argue that maybe Jason Carter didnt quite live up to his prior performance (Travis Steele), or maybe Kyle Castilin who came in as a role player.

But Freshmen? Its 50/50 at BEST. Obviously a Freshman must have had a HS and AAU performance that was good enough for us to visualize his as a productive college player and yet time after time we get freshmen that just completely fizzle out.

We have seen, and will continue to see, the lower level schools being used as a farm system for the big guys. Look at the key transfers from this year. Its FLUSH with players that were POY, or DPOY, or Freshmen of the year or First Team All Conference from the bottom 1/2 of conferences. the big boys are literally just poaching all of the top talent from the little guys.

if I'm a D1 coach, I'm trying to bring in maybe 1-2 Freshmen each year, then trying to grab 1-2 transfers with multiple years left and then 1 or 2 guys with one year left.

Do that for a couple years and you'll have a decent core of 5-6 guys that came in as freshmen, 3-5 guys that transferred in with multiple years left, and 1-2 guys that join the team as seniors. You can sustain that mix.

The 50-75% yearly roster turnover is not sustainable and results in ZERO chemistry or role expectations each year. No thanks.

[GoMuskies]

Are you saying that Travis Taylor and Isiah Philmore were good at Xavier? Not my recollection.