Did Huggins just say F@g on air twice?

Roach · 05-09-2023, 09:23 AM

Originally Posted by XUGRAD80

If he had just say “that’s just them being Catholics”, would there be near the uproar? Probably not IMO. In our world today it’s more than OK to disparage western religions, in fact it’s often encouraged. But say something about any minority and you’re going to be canceled in every way possible. This is somewhat a backlash for the major religions and ethnic groups in this country having done the same to minorities for hundreds of years.

…….and that’s probably the last social/political post I’ll ever make here. Please forgive me for being serious about something for a few moments. I’ll not do it again.

Thank you. I am troubled by the fact that, with only two words, Huggins evinced both homophobia *and* anti-Catholicism, and yet hand wringers in the media and on social media are only rebuking him for the former. Why? Because anti-Christian sentiment, and anti-Catholicism most especially, is one of the last forms of acceptable prejudice… and we all know why. Can you imagine the field day the media would have had if he’d called a group of people “Muslim f*gs”? You’re damn right there’d be more ink spilled about it than has been spilled over his anti-Catholicism.

In short, while I fully agree that his homophobic slur was abhorrent, I also have no shortage of criticism for those who are outraged about the homophobia but have not a word to say about his religious discrimination.

Muskeagle · 05-09-2023, 10:59 AM

Originally Posted by Roach

Thank you. I am troubled by the fact that, with only two words, Huggins evinced both homophobia *and* anti-Catholicism, and yet hand wringers in the media and on social media are only rebuking him for the former. Why? Because anti-Christian sentiment, and anti-Catholicism most especially, is one of the last forms of acceptable prejudice… and we all know why. Can you imagine the field day the media would have had if he’d called a group of people “Muslim f*gs”? You’re damn right there’d be more ink spilled about it than has been spilled over his anti-Catholicism.

In short, while I fully agree that his homophobic slur was abhorrent, I also have no shortage of criticism for those who are outraged about the homophobia but have not a word to say about his religious discrimination.

I think there is some truth to this sentiment, but but if he had called Xavier folks....a bunch of Catholics....well, that would just be true. It's the INCLUSION of the other word that turns the statement about a group of Catholics INTO a slur. So yes, he's being both homophobic and anti-Catholic, but the bite is in the homophobic slur....and therein lies the pre-occupation with that side of it.
just my two cents

Muskeagle · 05-09-2023, 11:00 AM

Originally Posted by Roach

Thank you. I am troubled by the fact that, with only two words, Huggins evinced both homophobia *and* anti-Catholicism, and yet hand wringers in the media and on social media are only rebuking him for the former. Why? Because anti-Christian sentiment, and anti-Catholicism most especially, is one of the last forms of acceptable prejudice… and we all know why. Can you imagine the field day the media would have had if he’d called a group of people “Muslim f*gs”? You’re damn right there’d be more ink spilled about it than has been spilled over his anti-Catholicism.

In short, while I fully agree that his homophobic slur was abhorrent, I also have no shortage of criticism for those who are outraged about the homophobia but have not a word to say about his religious discrimination.

SORRY FOR the double post. Site was acting strange.

I think there is some truth to this sentiment, but but if he had called Xavier folks....a bunch of Catholics....well, that would just be true. It's the INCLUSION of the other word that turns the statement about a group of Catholics INTO a slur. So yes, he's being both homophobic and anti-Catholic, but the bite is in the homophobic slur....and therein lies the pre-occupation with that side of it.
just my two cents

**xudash** · 05-09-2023, 11:19 AM

Originally Posted by muskiefan82

I need to know if the crowd really threw rubber penises on to the court. This is what the real question is here. LOL

Exactly. I was thinking the exact same thing. I can't imagine that being allowed in the Cintas Center. Cincinnati Gardens? Well, that was part of its charm.

STL_XUfan · 05-09-2023, 11:28 AM

Originally Posted by xudash

Exactly. I was thinking the exact same thing. I can't imagine that being allowed in the Cintas Center. Cincinnati Gardens? Well, that was part of its charm.

All you would have to do is hold it over your head and security would be fine with it.

It isn’t unbelievable that this could have happened at a game. What is unbelievable is that it happened and nobody remembers or talks about it. This story would have gone down in Xavier lore with each telling increasing the size and number of dildos.

**xudash** · 05-09-2023, 11:47 AM

Thought just occurred to me: most here - and I agree - have stated that we should stay out of the fray over all of this. A certain type of response from Xavier would not serve our best interests. I'm fine with that; I get that.

Here's our potential issue: we've been slandered - as a fan base, as tied to an institution. As "Animal House Funny" as it sounds to have fans throwing rubber penises at a clown like Huggins, it also is true that that is a bad look for Xavier and its fans in many quarters.

This drunk had to have made that incident up. No one here remembers anything like this every happening. In what is considered one of the top rivalries in college basketball, we have never heard a whisper about such a thing happening during that game. How is that possible if it, in fact, happened?

Bottomline: there is a lot of people out there now who have a rather negative perception of Xavier fans and Xavier (sorry, guilt through association in this society) because of what this drunk said on the radio. So, I'm back to going after him for 20 mill for the new football stadium!

STL_XUfan · 05-09-2023, 11:51 AM

Originally Posted by xudash

Thought just occurred to me: most here - and I agree - have stated that we should stay out of the fray over all of this. A certain type of response from Xavier would not serve our best interests. I'm fine with that; I get that.

Here's our potential issue: we've been slandered - as a fan base, as tied to an institution. As "Animal House Funny" as it sounds to have fans throwing rubber penises at a clown like Huggins, it also is true that that is a bad look for Xavier and its fans in many quarters.

This drunk had to have made that incident up. No one here remembers anything like this every happening. In what is considered one of the top rivalries in college basketball, we have never heard a whisper about such a thing happening during that game. How is that possible if it, in fact, happened?

Bottomline: there is a lot of people out there now who have a rather negative perception of Xavier fans and Xavier (sorry, guilt through association in this society) because of what this drunk said on the radio. So, I'm back to going after him for 20 mill for the new football stadium!

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Streisand_effect No one but us is talking about the Xavier side of this story. Why bring more attention to the part of the story no one cares about?

**Masterofreality** · 05-09-2023, 11:53 AM

I’d like to know the exact year that the object throwing occurred. Never heard a thing about that, nor anything said on TV and I have all the Crosstown Shootouts recorded.
Thuggins claims 1) Dan Peters was his Assistant, 2)that Bilas was doing the game, but the only games at Xavier when Peters was Assistant was 1999 at the Gardens, 2001 in Cintas when UC won by 20 when David West got hurt and 2004 in the Lionel Chalmers game. If it was 2004, Bilas wasn’t in the booth. Len Elmore was the color guy. And, at that game, UC Sucks shirts were banned from Cintas and Father Hoff and Nancy Zimpher actually did a mid court pregame ceremony together to lessen the rancor. If it was 1999, Bilas didn’t do that game either. It was Dick Vitale as the color guy. The other games were at 166.7% Arena.
I doubt that Huggy would be mad about a game that he won by 20 in 2001. I don’t think Bilas did that game either. I call total BS. Guess BeelzeBob was drunk again.

From the Canton Repository Newspaper a few days before yesterday:

https://www.cantonrep.com/story/spor...h/70195796007/