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    Quote Originally Posted by smileyy View Post
    If I have a guy who can shoot 45-50% from deep he better be shooting at least 10 a game. Even if he "only" shoots 40% on pull-up 3s (a more difficult shot than catch-and-shoot) I want him taking 20 a game.
    Would you then be happy with someone that scores 15 points a game and commits 5 turnovers, or 24 points a game, but also commits 12 turnovers? Especially if those turnovers often turn into fast breaks for the other team? Often a quick pull up 3 that is missed turns into just that...a turnover leading to a fast break. It's certainly entertaining BB to watch, but it isn't often winning BB, especially come tournament time.

    Winning BB, and especially championship winning BB, usually relies on a mixture of being able to take and make some outside shots, combined with the ability to score off the drive and also inside by a team's interior players. Then one must combine the offensive abilities of a team with its defensive capabilities.

    This isn't rocket science by any means. I think most everyone will agree that a team needs more than just great outside shooters to be successful. "Today's game" or not, somethings just don't change. The objective is to score one more point than your opponent. it's not to just make one more long shot, or to make one more free throw, or to block one more shot. All of those little things add up to the one thing that really matters....scoring that 1 additional point at the end of the game. Ball control that eliminates turnovers that lead to easy baskets, making free throws, controlling the glass, playing defense, making a high % of your shots, playing as a TEAM are just as important now as they ever were.

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    Quote Originally Posted by smileyy View Post
    If I have a guy who can shoot 45-50% from deep he better be shooting at least 10 a game. Even if he "only" shoots 40% on pull-up 3s (a more difficult shot than catch-and-shoot) I want him taking 20 a game.
    I'm with you smileyy, and apparently, Coach Malone agrees too!

    Denver's Jamal Murray was 0 for 9 last night from behind the arc in Game 2 playoff vs. Phoenix. Some pundit asked him if that was a concern. Coach said he would accept that, but not if he went 0 for 2 from deep!

    Murray's line in playoffs FG% 49.5 - 3% 43.1 with avg. Points about 19. The shooters have to shoot! Interesting side note: Suns tried to shut down Murray, and weren't able to double Jokic, so he went 17/30 FG and 39 Points.

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    Grant Nelson from NDSU just entered the portal. Think Nunge, but more athletic. He also has his name in the draft. I would love him, but I don’t have any indication we’re in the mix. Hope we at least take a peek.

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    Odds point to Creighton picking Nelson up.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Final4 View Post
    Hey Naismith they're not playing on peach baskets anymore. You may want to read a few articles on "analytics and shot selection" which may help you better understand today's game.
    Care to offer up any real analysis as to why shooting more FT's than your opponents attempt is not a winning strategy? Do you have any of these articles to link, or is your post just a continuation of the massive hard-on you have for everything MOR posts?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Smails View Post
    Care to offer up any real analysis as to why shooting more FT's than your opponents attempt is not a winning strategy? Do you have any of these articles to link, or is your post just a continuation of the massive hard-on you have for everything MOR posts?
    Well it was pretty much a continuation of the massive hard-on I have for everything MOR posts. I think the guy is a condescending, pretentious dick and, while I'm not on here very often, when I am, I like to poke fun at him. With that said, to answer your question and a few others with differing views this was my only point.

    The calculus hasn’t changed. Recognizing which shots, adjusted for percentage made, yield the most points is a valuable metric that will never go away. Uncontested layups/dunks top the list followed by corner 3’s (obviously an NBA lean to the data but still relatable). Contested shots inside the arc and even at the rim are well down the list.

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    Quote Originally Posted by xukeith View Post
    Odds point to Creighton picking Nelson up.
    Did Kalkbrenner declare for the draft?
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    Quote Originally Posted by D-West & PO-Z View Post
    Did Kalkbrenner declare for the draft?
    Yes but maintained eligibility for now. Maybe he is hearing good things. I think with a bit of bulk he has the potential to have a nice career at the next level. Not a starter, it rotational player for 6-8 years. Size and just enough athleticism

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    Quote Originally Posted by Xville View Post
    Yes but maintained eligibility for now. Maybe he is hearing good things. I think with a bit of bulk he has the potential to have a nice career at the next level. Not a starter, it rotational player for 6-8 years. Size and just enough athleticism
    FWIW. Latest projections has Kalk going late in the second round.

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    Maybe this is already posted here but 4mill?? Wow:

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