Joe Deters- Xavier

[X-band '01]

Some consider such a statement to be a racist dogwhistle.

Pretty sure saying "Bring back the firing squad" isn't exactly what I'd call in line with Catholic teaching.

Look, I don't blame some of the students on campus at least trying to make their opposition known for statements like that. They also had to know that words alone were not going to disqualify Deters from being named "justice in residence" on campus. He's not inciting violence like other leaders of the Republican party have done in recent years. He's not exactly Milo Yanoupolis (sp?), for example.

In other ways, Deters was lucky to be appointed to the Supreme Court - the political demographics of Hamilton County are changing. By and large he completed commendable service as Hamilton County Prosecutor, but it wouldn't have shocked me to see him eventually lose that race had he not moved on.

[nuts4xu]

Pretty sure saying "Bring back the firing squad" isn't exactly what I'd call in line with Catholic teaching.

Most of those crying out against Joe Deters cite things he has done or said that are not "in line with Catholic teaching".

My question is this: Does everything the university does have to be in line with the catholic teaching?

Universities all over the country invite contrary viewpoints on their campuses. When I went to X, it seemed they were trying to teach me to think, to form opinions, and to be able to defend my opinions.

If you are spoon fed information from similar sources with similar viewpoints, you are going to get more of the same. That isn't what Xavier University is about. It isn't what most colleges or universities are about.

[GoMuskies]

Make your own decision as to whether he should be lecturing at XU.

Seems like he should. Thanks!

[GoMuskies]

Most of those crying out against Joe Deters cite things he has done or said that are not "in line with Catholic teaching".

Correct. And frankly, other than Jesus Christ what person hasn't done or said things not in line with Catholic teaching?

[Muskie]

Google "Ohio Treasurer Joe Deters and Matt Borges." Yes, the same Matt Borges found guilty of multiple felonies in the recent $60M bribery scandal. As my seventh grade teacher said, "Birds of a feather flock together." Joe scampered away from Columbus after the scandal involving the Treasurer's office and retreated to the safety of Rethuglican Hamilton County where he served as prosecuting attorney until "miraculously" picked to be Ohio Supreme Court Justice, having exactly no judicial experience. Make your own decision as to whether he should be lecturing at XU.

A couple points:

People get selected to be judges with no prior judicial experience. You need to look no further than one state west to find that Indiana appointed a non-judge to our supreme Court a few years back. Non Judges bring a perspective to the appellate benches, that current judges may not have. It's a good thing to consider to keep your Court diverse and flexible to institutional change.

Anyone of note coming to lecture at Xavier is a plus in my book. Cornell West has come and given speeches at Xavier. The University is considering (or at least was) a proposal to become home of Speaker Boehner's official papers from his time in Congress. My point is, that we have all become victims of echo chambers and algorithms that feeds us our preferred point of view. Many never even take a look at other points of view. To me, that's not what education is about. I'm very happy that President Hanycz wants to continue this at Xavier. I may not always like the message, but I appreciate the opportunity to experience it and make my own conclusions. Students (and Alumni) are the total of their experiences. I hope Xavier continues to provide experiences and allow students to continue to come to their own conclusions.

[Smails]

Pretty sure saying "Bring back the firing squad" isn't exactly what I'd call in line with Catholic teaching.

Is that the bar you're setting? LOL.

[bleedXblue]

Google "Ohio Treasurer Joe Deters and Matt Borges." Yes, the same Matt Borges found guilty of multiple felonies in the recent $60M bribery scandal. As my seventh grade teacher said, "Birds of a feather flock together." Joe scampered away from Columbus after the scandal involving the Treasurer's office and retreated to the safety of Rethuglican Hamilton County where he served as prosecuting attorney until "miraculously" picked to be Ohio Supreme Court Justice, having exactly no judicial experience. Make your own decision as to whether he should be lecturing at XU.

please expound......

[Smails]

Rethuglican Hamilton County .

This is very cute..actually one of the better clever nicknames I've seen in a while. Now on to the actual facts: Hamilton County has voted of 58% Democratic in the past several cycles. It seems that if Deters was going to run from the Feds (because that always works) to the comforts of a Republican County, it wouldn't be Hamilton.

[XUGRAD80]

As someone that spent most of grade school, all of high school, most of college, and several years living and working in Hamilton County, it does sadden me to see the $**t show that Hamilton Co. and the Cincinnati City Council have become. On the plus side though, I get a front row seat from just across the Ohio River. Sure we have our problems over here too, but nothing like what I’m seeing from there.

I will say that I am very happy that the Xavier President has basically told the partitioners that she wasn’t going to cave to their pressure, and that a free exchange of ideas and thoughts is going to be the path that Xavier University will take under her watch. A step in the right direction that hopefully others will follow.

[hoopster68]

please expound......

BleedXBlue: Joe Deters ran for and was elected Ohio Treasurer in '99, appointing Matt Borges as Chief of Staff. Mr. Borges was in charge of choosing brokers to handle investments for the office; in '02 a Cuyahoga County Grand Jury indicted Frank Gruttadauria on counts of securities fraud, including his work for the Ohio Treasurers office; between '99 and '01 he and the two firms he worked for placed $5.9 billion for the office. Borges pleaded guilty and received probation while Gruttadauria went to jail. Mr. Deters was not indicted or charged. However, he showed a gross lack of supervision of the office and his subordinate. He resigned as Treasurer when Art Ney (sp?) was appointed Judge in Hamilton County, and Deters became County Prosecutor. Deters never accepted responsibility for his abysmal performance as Ohio Treasurer; he skated. Should he be a "justice in residence" at XU is for each of us to decide.