Nova and Gonzaga to the B12?

[JTG]

From what some folks have said , Gonzaga has had an open invitation from the Big East on the table for awhile, and haven't acted on it. Waiting for a better, more logistically feasible offer. FOX being a West coast operation maybe should have pushed the issue. But the fact they have the BIG 12, they win either way.

[xubrew]

When I’m doubt, follow the money…..

The question I would have is, how much money would the BB only schools get from the B12 TV revenue? If it’s merely the money the B12 would get from the 3rd tier, is that enough to make them turn their back on the BE? IF I was one of the B12 schools that fielded a football team, I would be balking at letting a BB only school get any of that 380 plus million. It obviously IF the BB only schools can get a big payday out of moving to the B12 they will have to consider it very seriously. Follow the money.

I don’t think it’s going to happen, but I certainly won’t say there’s no chance. There’s always a chance.

That is a VERY good question. And I don't now how to find out the answer.

The BTN earns the conference $0.59 per month per subscriber. That means if you have the Big Ten Network, whether you're paying for it on a premium sports tier or if it is included with your basic channels, you are (indirectly) paying the Big Ten 59 cents a month. Even if you don't watch a single second of it throughout the year. If you have it, you're paying for it. So, say for the Big 12 Network it's 50 cents, and it's available to all subscribers in all those big markets....that's how much they'd be making per month That's $6 per year per person in all those cities.

And this is REALLY the only reason the Big Ten wanted UCLA and USC, and Maryland and Rutgers in the previous round. I don't think Rutgers's stellar history in football and basketball was really the selling point on them.

And I also get the impression that Brett Yormark doesn't really care about football or basketball. He'll add basketball schools if he thinks he can get the network distributed in those markets. He'd probably add a bowling school if he felt there was enough of a following within that market to get the network distributed. That's what I think his goal is. To HIM, I don't think he even cares about the whole "football/basketball" school thing. He's already got the first two tiers of his TV deal in place.

[Xavier]

Is there a chance the Big East implodes? Did I miss something? I know there's always a chance but is this a reasonable possibility?

Implodes is a bit strong. But losing the two biggest brands (currently) in the big East is a massive blow. Creighton/Marquette/Xavier is a strong base still but the image of the big East takes a major step down. That’s what I meant, not that it completely goes away.

[xudash]

That is a VERY good question. And I don't now how to find out the answer.

The BTN earns the conference $0.59 per month per subscriber. That means if you have the Big Ten Network, whether you're paying for it on a premium sports tier or if it is included with your basic channels, you are (indirectly) paying the Big Ten 59 cents a month. Even if you don't watch a single second of it throughout the year. If you have it, you're paying for it. So, say for the Big 12 Network it's 50 cents, and it's available to all subscribers in all those big markets....that's how much they'd be making per month That's $6 per year per person in all those cities.

And this is REALLY the only reason the Big Ten wanted UCLA and USC, and Maryland and Rutgers in the previous round. I don't think Rutgers's stellar history in football and basketball was really the selling point on them.

And I also get the impression that Brett Yormark doesn't really care about football or basketball. He'll add basketball schools if he thinks he can get the network distributed in those markets. He'd probably add a bowling school if he felt there was enough of a following within that market to get the network distributed. That's what I think his goal is. To HIM, I don't think he even cares about the whole "football/basketball" school thing. He's already got the first two tiers of his TV deal in place.

So, it seems like the key could be whether or not the Big12 package would be forced into a basic cable package in the Northeast for this, because I can’t imagine demand being high enough in the voluntary sign-up scenario to push the numbers to what is needed. I can’t see any provider cramming a non-Northeast-centric college conference into a pro-centric college basketball loving region.

A quick word on UCONN. Their fan base loves being back in the Big East for basketball. I doubt any desirable conference would offer them football (full) membership at this point.

Finally, I loved Val’s comments in the SI article. I’m hopeful that we’ll come out of this just fine.

[Xavgrad08]

Meeting in West Virginia this week where the Big 12 will continue to discuss adding Gonzaga. Article also mentions communication with UCONN.
https://www.si.com/fannation/college...-gonzaga-rumor