Covid-19

[Xville]

So, they are opening International travel. That’s good. The Aussies are in lockdown and have been protesting for some time. It is not a good situation for the people there. BTW, the NYT is less credible than Tucker. :)

In regards to the times, whatever. The article just made some factual points, something that escapes talking heads like Tucker, lemon, Maddow and all the other freak shows.

There are protests, sure, just like there were protests here all last year that were also stupid. In regards to the specifics about the lockdowns, I'm with ya, but they are lifting them in phases where there are lockdowns once the vaccinated % is reached which will start in the next month.

[XU_Lou]

No it’s not, but it’s not surprising you believe that due to where you get your information from.

If anyone wants to read about it outside of Carlson and Lou drivel, here is an actual factual piece of what is going on:

https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.nyt...covid.amp.html

To follow-up with Strange Brew's post....

This is gaslighting at its finest. Congrats! I see you've learned from your liberal buddies on this board on how to do it! LOL!!!

So, are you saying:

a) all those videos and news reports in posts #6251 and #6252 (and many, many others that I haven't shared) are all fake?

or

b) all those people protesting across the country on almost a daily basis now - and - all those cops who are firing rubber bullets at them, choking and beating citizens, and arresting them for no reason, are doing all of this for no reason, or maybe because of a travel ban?


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Speaking of gaslighting..... Isn't funny how Xville consistently bashes Fox News, Tucker Carlson, independent conservative media, Rand Paul, Mitch McConnel and Donald Trump (among others) - while citing the NY Times as a credible news source; and yet, he tries to tell us he isn't a Democrat. What a fucking joke....

[Xville]

To follow-up with Strange Brew's post....

This is gaslighting at its finest. Congrats! I see you've learned from your liberal buddies on this board on how to do it! LOL!!!

So, are you saying:

a) all those videos and news reports in posts #6251 and #6252 (and many, many others that I haven't shared) are all fake?

or

b) all those people protesting across the country on almost a daily basis now - and - all those cops who are firing rubber bullets at them, choking and beating citizens, and arresting them for no reason, are doing all of this for no reason, or maybe because of a travel ban?


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Speaking of gaslighting..... Isn't funny how Xville consistently bashes Fox News, Tucker Carlson, independent conservative media, Rand Paul, Mitch McConnel and Donald Trump (among others) - while citing the NY Times as a credible news source; and yet, he tries to tell us he isn't a Democrat. What a fucking joke....

Funny how you completely gloss over the fact I disparage maddow lemon and others on the other side of the media. I also have disparaged aoc, Bernie and all the other tribe pieces of shit in the politics thread. You just choose to read and see what you want to believe. Shocking.

A.) not saying they are fake.
B.) hyperbole at its finest
C.) it’s clear you don’t understand what gaslighting means

[XU_Lou]

Funny how you completely gloss over the fact I disparage maddow lemon and others on the other side of the media. I also have disparaged aoc, Bernie and all the other tribe pieces of shit in the politics thread. You just choose to read and see what you want to believe. Shocking.

A.) not saying they are fake.
B.) hyperbole at its finest

B: please demonstrate that I or any of the videos portray something less than what is reported....libby....

[Xville]

B: please demonstrate that I or any of the videos portray something less than what is reported....libby....

You sound like the Libby or the bleeding heart that complains when those poor people that get pulled over by the cops never did anything to get tased or shot, or those poor innocent peaceful protestors never did anything wrong.

It’s pretty funny actually your views on this when it fits your narrative this time around.

[XU_Lou]

You sound like the Libby or the bleeding heart that complains when those poor people that get pulled over by the cops never did anything to get tased or shot, or those poor innocent peaceful protestors never did anything wrong.

Thanks for underscoring once again that you're not a serious person.

[Xville]

Thanks for underscoring once again that you're not a serious person.

So you don’t disagree with anything I just said, good. Glad we got it covered that you’re a hypocrite

You can’t be serious to post a Tucker Carlson video and take it at face value.

[XU_Lou]

"Australia's Lockdown Is Warning to America" from Buck Sexton:

Americans used to think of Australia as something like the United Kingdom with warmer weather and better beaches.

But in the era of COVID-19, it has turned into a cautionary tale of the limitless powers that governments can seize under the guise of protecting public health.

You won’t see a lot of headlines about it, but about half of Australia’s 25 million people are suffering under a severe, ongoing COVID lockdown. And unlike in the U.S., where “essential workers” and a host of other exceptions were allowed to go about their job despite a rapidly spreading virus in their communities, the Australian version of lockdown is much closer to prison, which the term is taken from.

Down Under Lockdown

Australian police are the ruthless secret police Stasi of COVID rules… They will enthusiastically give fines to young mothers pushing strollers in public parks for being unmasked outdoors, or not having a good enough reason for being outside the allowable radius from their homes.

There are viral videos online of Australian police firing rubber bullets and deploying flashbang grenades against anti-lockdown protestors for the crime of simply being outside. These armed agents of the state clad in black riot gear zealously enforce outdoor mask measures on public streets, and will viciously arrest and faceplant into concrete those who transgress these idiotic rules.

Sydney, the most populous city in Australia, has been in lockdown for 14 weeks. Its regulations have included a 9 p.m. curfew and only an hour of outdoor exercise allowed a day – even though there is absolutely no scientific anti-COVID basis for either limitation.

When will the madness end? The government is talking about a “full reopen” when 80% of adults in the country are vaccinated. Currently, about 42% of Aussies have gotten the shot.

Why did Australia decide to implement a Down-Under version of an Orwellian dystopia? They would no doubt point to their very low COVID spread and fatality rate – 1,256 deaths out of 100,000 cases – as the primary justification.

The Isolationist Model

But the data also reflects, it’s much more likely that Australia’s isolation from the rest of the world – it’s notably an island, with a sparse population – played a larger role than lockdowns in suppressing the virus. Perth, in the fast west of Australia, is among the most isolated major cities in the world, and it currently has no lockdown and almost no cases. It’s not Australian’s mask policy that made the difference – it’s geography.

Apart from the debate over how to best suppress a virus (other than living on a remote island that can entirely restrict travel), there’s a very real concern growing that COVID policies are turning westernized societies into much more authoritarian places.

If the government can shut down your business or church, and even mandate that you stay inside your own home for weeks on end – all to combat a virus with a 99.7% survival rate – what can the government not do in the name of “public health”?

It’s not just Australia where these concerns have taken a turn into tyrannical reality… The U.S. has more than its share of statist demagogues in office, and the Biden administration appears equally drunk with power and incompetent with its hands on the steering wheel of government, especially when it comes to COVID.

[XU_Lou]

For some more reality of what's really going on in Australia - not the pretend "oh they're going to open up soon" gaslighting we've heard today....

Australia is still officially a democracy, but its COVID restrictions are severe. It’s hard to enter or leave the country unless you’re a politician or a celebrity. Citizens are tracked with apps and soon by facial recognition. In some states, you must have your phone scanned before entering a church. And some have been arrested for simply posting on social media about protests against COVD restrictions.

The rest of the world is starting to ask if Australia can still call itself a free country.

Australia’s lockdown has been so draconian, it’s brought comparisons on social media to how Australia began, as a prison colony.

A pregnant Australian mother was handcuffed and hauled away by cops in front of her children for simply posting on Facebook about a planned lockdown protest.

The charge was incitement.



Police helicopters look for lockdown violators. Officers have fired rubber bullets and tear gas at anti-lockdown protesters, including children.

James Allan, Garrick Professor in Law at the University of Queensland, calls it “heavy-handed despotism.”

“It's been appalling in Australia,” Allan says, “and I say that as a big fan of Australia. I'm Canadian. But it’s come as a real shock to me, how people have reacted in Australia.”

Australia consists of six states and two territories, each with its own COVID restrictions.

Under a new home quarantine plan, if you don’t send the government your photo and location when it sends you a text, the police will come to your door.



We asked Evan Mulholland at Australia’s conservative think tank, the Institute of Public Affairs, if he still considers Australia a free country.

“Well, it's a good question,” Mulholland replied, “It's a question a lot of people across the political spectrum have been asking. These things don't happen in a vacuum. They happen when the political and cultural elites slowly take away our freedoms and they become normalized.”

Australians have also begun turning one another into authorities, East German style. When an Australian mother was desperate to find a way home with her son and needed to cross a state border, violating lockdown restrictions, she was turned in to police.



Allan says, “The media has just scared people senseless. The average person thinks, ‘If I catch this, I'm going to die.’”


https://www1.cbn.com/cbnnews/world/2...ople-senseless

[Xville]

For some more reality of what's really going on in Australia - not the pretend "oh they're going to open up soon" gaslighting we've heard today....

Australia is still officially a democracy, but its COVID restrictions are severe. It’s hard to enter or leave the country unless you’re a politician or a celebrity. Citizens are tracked with apps and soon by facial recognition. In some states, you must have your phone scanned before entering a church. And some have been arrested for simply posting on social media about protests against COVD restrictions.

The rest of the world is starting to ask if Australia can still call itself a free country.

Australia’s lockdown has been so draconian, it’s brought comparisons on social media to how Australia began, as a prison colony.

A pregnant Australian mother was handcuffed and hauled away by cops in front of her children for simply posting on Facebook about a planned lockdown protest.

The charge was incitement.



Police helicopters look for lockdown violators. Officers have fired rubber bullets and tear gas at anti-lockdown protesters, including children.

James Allan, Garrick Professor in Law at the University of Queensland, calls it “heavy-handed despotism.”

“It's been appalling in Australia,” Allan says, “and I say that as a big fan of Australia. I'm Canadian. But it’s come as a real shock to me, how people have reacted in Australia.”

Australia consists of six states and two territories, each with its own COVID restrictions.

Under a new home quarantine plan, if you don’t send the government your photo and location when it sends you a text, the police will come to your door.



We asked Evan Mulholland at Australia’s conservative think tank, the Institute of Public Affairs, if he still considers Australia a free country.

“Well, it's a good question,” Mulholland replied, “It's a question a lot of people across the political spectrum have been asking. These things don't happen in a vacuum. They happen when the political and cultural elites slowly take away our freedoms and they become normalized.”

Australians have also begun turning one another into authorities, East German style. When an Australian mother was desperate to find a way home with her son and needed to cross a state border, violating lockdown restrictions, she was turned in to police.



Allan says, “The media has just scared people senseless. The average person thinks, ‘If I catch this, I'm going to die.’”


https://www1.cbn.com/cbnnews/world/2...ople-senseless

The pretend? You’re a fucking idiot or just incredibly obtuse:

https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.bbc...a-58757888.amp

https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.wsj...19-11633071665

https://www.reuters.com/world/asia-p...es-2021-10-01/

https://www.theguardian.com/australi...in-weeks-video

It’s funny..you believe everything you can find that fits your narrative but yet discount the above, you’re a joke