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    Quote Originally Posted by Strange Brew View Post
    No, you watching MSNC/CNN/Networks again?
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    Quote Originally Posted by bobbiemcgee View Post
    Mostly I just play golf all day and watch the Rockies blow another game.
    Sounds wonderful. Except the Rocks. They find a way to do that too often.
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    Quote Originally Posted by bobbiemcgee View Post
    The question was is it an effective treatment for covid? Leading toxicoligists and the FDA say not.
    The FDA says they haven’t studied it enough to know.

    Others have studied it and have found the following:

    “Conclusions:

    Moderate-certainty evidence finds that large reductions in COVID-19 deaths are possible using ivermectin. Using ivermectin early in the clinical course may reduce numbers progressing to severe disease. The apparent safety and low cost suggest that ivermectin is likely to have a significant impact on the SARS-CoV-2 pandemic globally.”

    https://journals.lww.com/americanthe...ment_of.7.aspx

    Ivermectin is also used in several parts of the world and is believed to support the same conclusion.

    I don’t know who to believe, but the truth of the matter isn’t quite what you’ve made it out to be - there is a growing body of evidence that suggests it is helpful in fighting COVID, even if it isn’t a silver bullet or a cure all. From what I’ve read in regards to therapeutics, COVID therapy is not a “one size fits all solution”.

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    Quote Originally Posted by principal View Post
    The FDA says they haven’t studied it enough to know.

    Others have studied it and have found the following:

    “Conclusions:

    Moderate-certainty evidence finds that large reductions in COVID-19 deaths are possible using ivermectin. Using ivermectin early in the clinical course may reduce numbers progressing to severe disease. The apparent safety and low cost suggest that ivermectin is likely to have a significant impact on the SARS-CoV-2 pandemic globally.”

    https://journals.lww.com/americanthe...ment_of.7.aspx

    Ivermectin is also used in several parts of the world and is believed to support the same conclusion.

    I don’t know who to believe, but the truth of the matter isn’t quite what you’ve made it out to be - there is a growing body of evidence that suggests it is helpful in fighting COVID, even if it isn’t a silver bullet or a cure all. From what I’ve read in regards to therapeutics, COVID therapy is not a “one size fits all solution”.

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    I have a headache. I’ll take aspirin. Maybe it will help, but maybe not. But it can’t hurt.

    I have COVID. I’ll take Ivermectin. Maybe it will help, maybe not. But it can’t hurt.

    Why on earth would this be controversial? This whole debate seems so familiar. How, i Can’t Quite recall.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Muskie in dayton View Post
    I have a headache. I’ll take aspirin. Maybe it will help, but maybe not. But it can’t hurt.

    I have COVID. I’ll take Ivermectin. Maybe it will help, maybe not. But it can’t hurt.

    Why on earth would this be controversial? This whole debate seems so familiar. How, i Can’t Quite recall.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Muskie in dayton View Post
    How, i Can’t Quite recall.
    :)

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    Quote Originally Posted by Muskie in dayton View Post
    I have a headache. I’ll take aspirin. Maybe it will help, but maybe not. But it can’t hurt.

    I have COVID. I’ll take Ivermectin. Maybe it will help, maybe not. But it can’t hurt.

    Why on earth would this be controversial? This whole debate seems so familiar. How, i Can’t Quite recall.
    It’s almost as if there are billions of dollars at stake.

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    Quote Originally Posted by principal View Post
    It’s almost as if there are billions of dollars at stake.
    Trillions actually. $20 a shot just in the US.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Muskie in dayton View Post
    How, i Can’t Quite recall.
    And yet once again we find ourselves in the dumbest debate, a bunch of people on either side arguing about an off label use of a drug none us knew about 14 days ago. If it could work, great, study it properly and let's find out. The medical people in my life all seem of one mind that the science behind it doesn't make sense as a treatment. I am going to side with them at this point, cause if I knew shit about science I might have done something useful with my life. I also trust them to change their mind if proper data comes out that it could work, cause each and everyone of them is desperate at this point for anything that will provide them any sort of relief.

    However, a bunch of non-medical people out there pushing it as a miracle cure is stupidly dangerous, especially when it is a drug that can be picked up at a feed store. Why this was first reported by any news outlet, and why the controversy is now getting so much oxygen by the news is just dangerous. It only further sows disinformation and leads us into these type of stupid debates.

    I do find it somewhat ironic that the same people that are anti-vax cause it hasn't been studied enough, have no problem not only jumping on the bandwagon of off label untested remedies like HCQ and Ivermectin, but become the biggest cheerleaders.
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    Quote Originally Posted by STL_XUfan View Post
    And yet once again we find ourselves in the dumbest debate, a bunch of people on either side arguing about an off label use of a drug none us knew about 14 days ago. If it could work, great, study it properly and let's find out. The medical people in my life all seem of one mind that the science behind it doesn't make sense as a treatment. I am going to side with them at this point, cause if I knew shit about science I might have done something useful with my life. I also trust them to change their mind if proper data comes out that it could work, cause each and everyone of them is desperate at this point for anything that will provide them any sort of relief.



    However, a bunch of non-medical people out there pushing it as a miracle cure is stupidly dangerous, especially when it is a drug that can be picked up at a feed store. Why this was first reported by any news outlet, and why the controversy is now getting so much oxygen by the news is just dangerous. It only further sows disinformation and leads us into these type of stupid debates.

    I do find it somewhat ironic that the same people that are anti-vax cause it hasn't been studied enough, have no problem not only jumping on the bandwagon of off label untested remedies like HCQ and Ivermectin, but become the biggest cheerleaders.
    A freaking men. However, now the argument these lunatics present is money, I guess the makers of these other drugs wouldn’t make a dime off of people taking it. It’s completely irrational that vaccines could help, and the companies could make money at the same time.lol

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