Covid-19

STL_XUfan · 08-19-2021, 10:56 AM

Originally Posted by X Factor

This is disgusting...

https://mynorthwest.com/3094868/rant...covid-vaccine/

It really isn't. I can only imagine the long list of hoops a heart transplant candidate has to jump through to qualify for a transplant and get access to an extraordinarily limited supply of donated hearts. With a resource as finite as a donated organ, hospital (or whoever makes that call) should have the right to prioritize where it will go to best use. I cannot imagine contracting covid after receiving the transplant will have a good result for him.

XU_Lou · 08-19-2021, 10:57 AM

Originally Posted by X Factor

This is disgusting...

https://mynorthwest.com/3094868/rant...covid-vaccine/

Same with this guy who needed a liver transplant: https://newsnationusa.com/news/usane...er-transplant/

Lloyd Braun · 08-19-2021, 11:24 AM

Originally Posted by STL_XUfan

It really isn't. I can only imagine the long list of hoops a heart transplant candidate has to jump through to qualify for a transplant and get access to an extraordinarily limited supply of donated hearts. With a resource as finite as a donated organ, hospital (or whoever makes that call) should have the right to prioritize where it will go to best use. I cannot imagine contracting covid after receiving the transplant will have a good result for him.

Yes and to elaborate a bit more the transplant rejection medications given to the patient for the rest of his life makes him immunocompromised. Many transplant boards require all vaccines be current so this is nothing new.

First, do no harm.

xu82 · 08-19-2021, 11:35 AM

Originally Posted by GoMuskies

It's not completely a pandemic of the unvaccinated. However, it is absolutely disproportionately a pandemic of the unvaccinated.

Nothing wrong with going with the odds, the way I see it.

X Factor · 08-19-2021, 12:00 PM

Originally Posted by Lloyd Braun

Yes and to elaborate a bit more the transplant rejection medications given to the patient for the rest of his life makes him immunocompromised. Many transplant boards require all vaccines be current so this is nothing new.

First, do no harm.

For a vaccine that hasn't been fully approved by the FDA, and that studies are showing might have negative effects on long-term health.

We're not talking about the polio vaccine here guys.

XU_Lou · 08-19-2021, 12:07 PM

Originally Posted by X Factor

For a vaccine that hasn't been fully approved by the FDA, and that studies are showing might have negative effects on long-term health.

We're not talking about the polio vaccine here guys.

Not to mention what's going on in Israel - coming to town near you in the very near future. From the NYT:

https://www.nytimes.com/2021/08/18/w...s-booster.html

For those that don't have a subscription:

https://indianexpress.com/article/wo...tions-7460871/

Lloyd Braun · 08-19-2021, 12:32 PM

Originally Posted by X Factor

For a vaccine that hasn't been fully approved by the FDA, and that studies are showing might have negative effects on long-term health.

We're not talking about the polio vaccine here guys.

Which studies are you referring that show negative long term effects?

You are not talking about someone who needs an appendectomy, this is a transplant patient. There aren’t exactly an ample supply of hearts floating around. It is extremely unlikely the heart went to a patient with a worse prognosis who was vaccinated.

Strange Brew · 08-19-2021, 12:39 PM

Originally Posted by Lloyd Braun

Edit: here is a pretty reasonable take on origins of the virus. I still believe animal spillover is likeliest scenario from what I’ve read. I have yet to see conclusive the forensic evidence that points to lab origin.

We are such a naive group of people in this country…