Covid-19

[xu82]

I think it’s about time for the NFL and the NFLPA to sit down and have some fresh discussions. They came to an agreement a while back that seems overly restrictive and even punitive to players who have not been vaccinated. That might have made sense when it was agreed upon, but it seems the climate has shifted some. When the times change, the rules need to change.

If you can bring 70k fans into a stadium with no consideration as to who has been vaccinated, why should the players be held to a higher standard?


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[Smails]

Pretty simple. Get the kids vaccinated. They already got shots for Polio, Diptheria, Flu, Hep A/B, Measles, menococcal, mumps, chickenpox, rotavirus, rubella, tetanus and whooping cough.

https://www.yahoo.com/news/covid-sho...231300876.html

Can you understand why some parents don't want to get their kids vaccinated?

[xu82]

https://www.yahoo.com/news/covid-sho...231300876.html

Can you understand why some parents don't want to get their kids vaccinated?

Some people didn’t read the entire article?

But despite the risks of the condition, a new CDC report estimates the vaccines could prevent 5,700 COVID-19 cases and as many as 215 hospitalizations among boys aged 12-17, noting that the benefits of vaccinating that age group "still clearly outweigh the risks."

"This experience was much better than getting COVID and much lower risk of anything long lasting occurring," Noah Hiers said.

[Strange Brew]

Some people didn’t read the entire article?

But despite the risks of the condition, a new CDC report estimates the vaccines could prevent 5,700 COVID-19 cases and as many as 215 hospitalizations among boys aged 12-17, noting that the benefits of vaccinating that age group "still clearly outweigh the risks."

"This experience was much better than getting COVID and much lower risk of anything long lasting occurring," Noah Hiers said.

Or he read the article and doesn’t care about Noah Hiers’ opinion.

[GoMuskies]

The WHO disagrees, for what it's worth. They say no vaccines for minors.

I'm not sure I really buy much of what either of them are selling, though. My minor children will get vaccinated when they tell me they want to get vaccinated or when their school tells them they aren't welcome unless vaccinated (very unlikely).

[Strange Brew]

The WHO disagrees, for what it's worth. They say no vaccines for minors.

I'm not sure I really buy much of what either of them are selling, though. My minor children will get vaccinated when they tell me they want to get vaccinated or when their school tells them they aren't welcome unless vaccinated (very unlikely).

The WHO is worth about the average opinion on this board at this point.

I'm in the same boat with you and it's highly unlikely my kid's school will make it a requirement.

[xu82]

For the record, I don’t pretend to know or have a firm position one way or another. To each their own. We went along and got our shots. Our adult son decided to do the same. His wife did not. Whatever.

[noteggs]

When politics decided walk firmly into the room, medical profession’s integrity has taken a huge hit.

[GIMMFD]

When politics decided walk firmly into the room, medical profession’s integrity has taken a huge hit.

Yup. I said from the beginning this was a chance to get a big win for the medical profession, and it was just completely botched, mainly due to politics. I firmly believe that 90% of healthcare professionals are doing what's right, and trying to keep the general population's best interest at hand, however this has just become a major mess.

[boozehound]

Yup. I said from the beginning this was a chance to get a big win for the medical profession, and it was just completely botched, mainly due to politics. I firmly believe that 90% of healthcare professionals are doing what's right, and trying to keep the general population's best interest at hand, however this has just become a major mess.

It's interesting, because I think that this should be a big win for the medical profession. We developed a remarkably effective vaccine within the first year of the initial outbreak. It's 90%+ effective, and safe. Sure, we lucked out to some extent that the work had already been started during the SARS outbreak a while back, but it's still an impressive feat, IMO.

There were some communication and messaging missteps initially (i.e. masks don't work) that I think had as much to do with our lack of understanding of the virus as any type of willful attempt to mislead people. We significantly improved our treatment protocol for infected people as well.

I really wonder what would have happened if the Trump administration had just backed the CDC guidance and stayed out of opining on masks, treatments, etc. Or just said nothing at all about treatments and other medical issues.

Take the whole HCQ thing for example. Nobody knew what HCQ was. We initially heard it was being used to treat some COVID patients, but I don't think anyone had much of an opinion initially. The Trump started touting it. His supporters treated it like a miracle cure and started trying to buy it up like crazy. His substantial group of haters (including much of the media) then had an equally strong negative opinion.

Honestly I think that the whole thing is just a function of how broken we are as a society, and how the internet is destroying us. This could/should have been a galvanizing moment for the United Stated, and a point of overall pride. Instead it's basically been the opposite.