Politics Thread

[ArizonaXUGrad]

By crap you mean pass laws that the people they represent would like in place? Can I call every law in CO I don't like crap if I disagree with the leaders who were elected by a majority of voters here? Sure, but if I REALLY cared I'd move to WY. Maybe you'd like CA?

You can. Especially if it's out of some conspiracy theory driven playbook.

350+ bills in 47 states, it wouldn't surprise me if these were all written during the Obama years and after Shelby County vs. Holder as a way to curb voter participation. They just needed a narrative to push them through state houses. People are so willing to believe that there must have been fraud because Q told them so now is the time to push them through.

[bobbiemcgee]

Interesting. They don't have standing.

It will go to Federal Court and end up like the other 60 blowout losses.

[Strange Brew]

66% of your "people" (that would be AMERICANS) want to keep Roe. So good luck with that.

I'm sure 66% of Germans in the 40s agreed with The Final Solution as well. Heck a majority of your people (Progressives) agreed with Sanger that "undesirables" should be eliminated or bred out of society in this country (in the 30s and early 40s).

Thank goodness this country isn't a Democracy.

[noteggs]

That 8 is higher than the zero they had before covid, but yet even with 0, people found a way to vote...amazing. Nothing burger that's already been talked about on this board ad nauseam.

Correct 0 boxes, but could drop it off at county board of elections. Not sure many utilized this before covid. This is same practice for Ohio and Joe’s home state of Delaware, drop it off at BOE. Wow guess it’s not just the southern states that suppress.

Maybe Georgia is trying to curb ballot harvesting since it’s illegal in that state? Hard to monitor this activity for numerous drop sites. Also, about every voter has a ballot box at their house/apartment, it’s called a mailbox.

I’m all for making it convenient to vote, but can’t come as a security issue. Odd that some can’t see there needs to be a balance. Before some get their pitch forks out, no Trump did not lose because illegal votes.

[ArizonaXUGrad]

I agree which is why people are anti-science and call abortion a "choice"

How is it not a choice? The woman and hopefully man make a choice. It would not be my choice, but I don't have the arrogance to force my religious beliefs on anyone else. Abortion bans have always been about religion whether people admit this or not.

Bobbiemcgee - it was actually 76% in the last poll I read. Don't get me wrong, I am in the percentage that think it should remain legal but with restrictions. I think a 21 week ban would work except for medical reasons and those would be determined by a doctor and patient only not the government. 1% of abortions happen at 21+ or later and though I don't know for sure I would guess that several of those were for legitimate medical reasons.

[Strange Brew]

How is it not a choice? The woman and hopefully man make a choice. It would not be my choice, but I don't have the arrogance to force my religious beliefs on anyone else. Abortion bans have always been about religion whether people admit this or not.

Bobbiemcgee - it was actually 76% in the last poll I read. Don't get me wrong, I am in the percentage that think it should remain legal but with restrictions. I think a 21 week ban would work except for medical reasons and those would be determined by a doctor and patient only not the government. 1% of abortions happen at 21+ or later and though I don't know for sure I would guess that several of those were for legitimate medical reasons.

It's a choice to legally kill a living, separate human being. My view is scientific.

Is it a living being after conception? Yes.
Does the organism have DNA unique to itself? Yes
Is that DNA that of a human? Yes.
What to we call the killing of a live human against it's will? Murder.
What do we call State sanctioned murder? Particularly when the killed are primarily of a certain class or ethnic group? Genocide.

[ArizonaXUGrad]

I'm sure 66% of Germans in the 40s agreed with The Final Solution as well. Heck a majority of your people (Progressives) agreed with Sanger that "undesirables" should be eliminated or bred out of society in this country (in the 30s and early 40s).

Thank goodness this country isn't a Democracy.

Less than 44% in the 1933 election actually, so definitely not a majority but merely a plurality. This was their height that I am aware of, their next best results were in the 30s.

[Xville]

How is it not a choice? The woman and hopefully man make a choice. It would not be my choice, but I don't have the arrogance to force my religious beliefs on anyone else. Abortion bans have always been about religion whether people admit this or not.

Bobbiemcgee - it was actually 76% in the last poll I read. Don't get me wrong, I am in the percentage that think it should remain legal but with restrictions. I think a 21 week ban would work except for medical reasons and those would be determined by a doctor and patient only not the government. 1% of abortions happen at 21+ or later and though I don't know for sure I would guess that several of those were for legitimate medical reasons.

It has to deal with whether you think murder is ok or not, apparently you think it’s fine.

[Masterofreality]

It’s going so well!!

https://www.washingtonexaminer.com/n...-families-plan

[Strange Brew]

Less than 44% in the 1933 election actually, so definitely not a majority but merely a plurality. This was their height that I am aware of, their next best results were in the 30s.

Sure, in 1933. The Final Solution wasn't a thing then. You could argue by the 40s the Germans had no choice legislatively or otherwise to do anything about the horrors taking place and just went along because it's the rule/law. But then you'd have to look at how Americans may feel about Roe. Can't fight it forever and the Court has spoken so the best we can do is not think about it or try to restrict it to make us feel less gross.