Covid-19

[X-man]

I'm not sure what you think you "fixed", but yes, this is the hit-job. CNN (big surprise) and other left-wing media also picked up on it too. You would think they should have learned their lesson from Nick Sandman about character assassination.


Keep going, you're on to something.


Damage? Damage done by compiling and analyzing data? I thought we wanted to "followed the science". Heck, that person with the '80's sitcom character name just went all tourettes on XU Lou about denying science. Now you're concerned about damage done by science? Please, do explain what damage you speak of.

Try your reading skills with that article I referenced. Then report back on this guy's science background. Anyone can compile "data". The use, or misuse, of such data comes with figuring out what the data say. That requires considerable training in statistics and if the data are related to a particular area, e.g. health and medicine, considerable training in that area as well. Your "scientist" by all accounts has neither. Posting shit to a blog does NOT make you competent to do scientific analysis.

[Juice]

Washington DC has had an inside and outside mask mandates for months now, is one of the most liberal/“FoLlow the ScienCe!” city in America and their cases shot up. For those who claim to follow the science, there sure are a lot of countries and cities with full mask mandates that aren’t doing too well. It’s almost as if this virus will rip through our population regardless.

[bobbiemcgee]

So the long predicted surge is happening as we move indoors. Mask wearing slows the virus, nothing's going to stop it until we have a vaccine and even then only half the population wants to get it. What would the DC numbers be if nobody wore a mask? Double? Triple?

https://www.mayoclinic.org/diseases-...k/art-20485449

[Juice]

So the long predicted surge is happening as we move indoors. Mask wearing slows the virus, nothing's going to stop it until we have a vaccine and even then only half the population wants to get it. What would the DC numbers be if nobody wore a mask? Double? Triple?

https://www.mayoclinic.org/diseases-...k/art-20485449

Well now you’re not dealing in science. You’re speculating and assuming with no statistical backing.

[XU_Lou]

Well, that is just not true.

The “whole fucking wold” is NOT wearing a mask. I see selfish, arrogant people at the grocery store who can’t act like a adult and put one on for 10-15 minutes for the sake of the people around them.

The virus continues, indeed. What would it look like without partial mask wearing? You cannot answer that, but I won’t be surprised if you make some shit up.

You fight this so fiercely, I have to wonder if you are not just trolling. You can find some links to fit your narrative, but the real world of science, not to mention common sense, disagrees. Even if they just MAY help, how can you argue against that? You “probably” won’t get into a car accident on the way to the store, so why wear a seatbelt?

I wear it to protect other people, not myself. I can’t see how people can argue against that. It’s just being a decent human being.

LOL - this is the 2nd time you've called me out thinking that I "make some shit up" - after providing authoritative links - like the CDC...

And again, I have to laugh at you for not considering the "science" or "common sense" when it comes to wearing masks at the grocery store. So let me post what "the science" actually says one more time for you (note the source is the CDC - is that good enough for you?):


Current guidance based on community exposure, for people exposed to people with known or suspected COVID-19 or possible COVID-19:

• Individual who has had close contact (< 6 feet)** for ≥15 minutes***

https://www.cdc.gov/coronavirus/2019...endations.html

"So where did that 15-minute part of the guideline come from? Gurley says it's based on earlier data from China on who was being infected and how infections occurred. "Even when they found lots and lots of very casual, quick contacts, that's not where they saw evidence of transmission," she says [Emily Gurley, an epidemiologist and contact-tracing expert at the Johns Hopkins Bloomberg School of Public Health].

Instead, she says, infections were occurring when people had "meaningful" amounts of close contact – such as traveling, dining or living together – that had a higher probability of resulting in transmission. She says the 15-minute guideline is a way to help contact tracers quantify which types of interactions were long enough to be meaningful in this context."

https://www.npr.org/sections/goatsan...15-minute-rule

So, in short, the <6 feet, ≥15 minutes contacts just ain't happening in grocery stores (at least with me)....

[Muskie in dayton]

Try your reading skills with that article I referenced. Then report back on this guy's science background. Anyone can compile "data". The use, or misuse, of such data comes with figuring out what the data say. That requires considerable training in statistics and if the data are related to a particular area, e.g. health and medicine, considerable training in that area as well. Your "scientist" by all accounts has neither. Posting shit to a blog does NOT make you competent to do scientific analysis.

Do you think the article you posted was new and groundbreaking? That’s the article that spawned the breakdown I posted. Did you read that? More importantly, did you review his work to form your own opinion, or did you just let the media’s slanderous hit job create your thoughts? I know the answer, and thank you for again proving my point.

As to Kyle’s qualifications, I am a scientist by training and practice, I’ve had rigorous statistics classes as part of my training, and I have read his work. Is it perfect? publishable? No. But he’s a critical, outside the box thinker with enough analytical skills to advance a concept. He is more than qualified for the entry level position. And you’re dead wrong about the need for “extensive training in that area”. Some of the best in their fields have learned on the job. And not that it really makes a difference but he does have qualifying professional experience beyond “being an Uber driver”. Funny that wasn’t mentioned.

Now, put on your critical thinking cap and ask yourself, “why would the media spend time smearing an entry level hire?”

[XU_Lou]

Do you think the article you posted was new and groundbreaking? That’s the article that spawned the breakdown I posted. Did you read that? More importantly, did you review his work to form your own opinion, or did you just let the media’s slanderous hit job create your thoughts? I know the answer, and thank you for again proving my point.

As to Kyle’s qualifications, I am a scientist by training and practice, I’ve had rigorous statistics classes as part of my training, and I have read his work. Is it perfect? publishable? No. But he’s a critical, outside the box thinker with enough analytical skills to advance a concept. He is more than qualified for the entry level position. And you’re dead wrong about the need for “extensive training in that area”. Some of the best in their fields have learned on the job. And not that it really makes a difference but he does have qualifying professional experience beyond “being an Uber driver”. Funny that wasn’t mentioned.

Now, put on your critical thinking cap and ask yourself, “why would the media spend time smearing an entry level hire?”

Muskie - honestly, this is starting to look like trying to tell Scientologists that L. Ron Hubbard was a fraud. The beliefs are so ingrained that no one is able to use rational thought anymore.

[xu82]

I have zero worry about COVID to my personal health, but I wear a mask when I’m in public because there is no downside to doing so. That being said, the statement that this would’ve been contained if all Americans had worn masks for the first 30 days is silly and has no scientific support.

I have no doubt the virus would have continued to spread, I just have to believe the rate of the spread could be contained to some degree. Even if it is by a small amount (which I doubt), it’s worth the small the small inconvenience. If nothing else, I just don’t want to be rude to the cashier at the grocery store who has to go home to her mother who has an underlying condition.

To search for links that say masks don’t matter is silly. The overwhelming amount of evidence and the general understanding according to the most widely respected sources say that they DO in fact matter. I’m not getting into a pissing match over that. There is more than enough evidence to say they help, and even if it’s just a little, why would you NOT do what helps.

I’d be ashamed of myself if I didn’t show other people this minimal amount of respect. How hard is it? Why would you whine like a child over this. Just act like an adult, even if it’s not fun to wear the stinkin’ mask in indoor public places.

[bobbiemcgee]

Common Sense. Most of the expert medical advice currently available suggests that mixing the coronavirus and large crowds is not a good idea. Seems to bear out with Sturgis, WH parties and secret service infections from rallies to name a few. Look for more with the maskless rally today.

[Xville]

Common Sense. Most of the expert medical advice currently available suggests that mixing the coronavirus and large crowds is not a good idea. Seems to bear out with Sturgis, WH parties and secret service infections from rallies to name a few. Look for more with the maskless rally today.

Riots, looting, biden splooge fests in the streets etc