Politics Thread

[xubrew]

You clearly don't understand Trump. He is so pure and uncorrupt that all these disgraced career politicians are speaking out against him because he threatens their web of corruption. People that have dedicated their lives to honorable service of the Country like James Mattis and John Kelly are slimy swamp dwellers now, since they dared to speak out against Trump. There can only be Trump, and we must all trust in Trump. Amen.

That or people that have been conned will believe almost anything so that they don't have to accept that they have been conned.

Another reason that con men are able to succeed. And, I get it. It sucks to get conned. You don't like the thought of having let yourself get conned. So a lot of people out there just won't admit it to themselves.

Has Mexico finished paying for the wall yet? Are term limits in place yet? Has the virus magically disappeared yet the way it was supposed to on Easter?

[boozehound]

Another reason that con men are able to succeed. And, I get it. It sucks to get conned. You don't like the thought of having let yourself get conned. So a lot of people out there just won't admit it to themselves.

Has Mexico finished paying for the wall yet? Are term limits in place yet? Has the virus magically disappeared yet the way it was supposed to on Easter?

All of that has happened already. The Mainstream Media just isn't telling you about it. I have an underground twitter feed from a guy who calls himself GorillaNachos23 that has the real news that the msm isn't reporting. Biden and the Democrats did all of this to keep Trump from getting reelected.

In all seriousness my wife has a relative who is a straight-up con artist. As in - currently on trial and will likely go to jail for multiple counts of financial fraud. It's amazing the lengths some will go to in order to avoid just admitting that they were wrong about someone and got taken.

[Lamont Sanford]

Here's a gem. I have to admit, this one is swaying me back.
https://twitter.com/BlazeTV/status/1321247810688225280?s=20

That is some seriously funny (and starkly true) shit there. Props.

[Xville]

All of that has happened already. The Mainstream Media just isn't telling you about it. I have an underground twitter feed from a guy who calls himself GorillaNachos23 that has the real news that the msm isn't reporting. Biden and the Democrats did all of this to keep Trump from getting reelected.

In all seriousness my wife has a relative who is a straight-up con artist. As in - currently on trial and will likely go to jail for multiple counts of financial fraud. It's amazing the lengths some will go to in order to avoid just admitting that they were wrong about someone and got taken.

At least Trump has only "conned" for three and a half years, the alternative is a con man who has been doing it in public office for 40 plus years, who has done zero in that time except continuing to get elected, which I guess is a feat.

[Muskie in dayton]

Now I get it. You get your news from an alcoholic, drug addicted, conspiracy theorist who got kicked off fox.

That's not news, it's humor. You should give it a try. Maybe you won't be so bitter.

[Smails]

https://www.axios.com/scoop-the-linc...80ebf96e8.html

Grifters gonna grift, right Paul?

No, no ,no....this simply can't be. The LP is noble and fighting for the cause of getting Trump out of office in order to restore decency and respect to the american political system. There's just no way they are trying to get rich by pulling on the emotions of a perpetually offended electorate. Progressives are way to refined and educated to let themselves be manipulated. That's only something that can happen to Republicans because they're simple minded..right?

If Trump loses there are going to be a lot of media/activist types who are going to need to reinvent themselves because they are going to run out of material and money. These guys (all white guys) are just ahead of the curve. They are pure capitalists..nothing more.

[xubrew]

At least Trump has only "conned" for three and a half years, the alternative is a con man who has been doing it in public office for 40 plus years, who has done zero in that time except continuing to get elected, which I guess is a feat.

Many who have had business dealings with him would tell a very different story.

But, to your point, the most common con that most politicians pull off is convincing so many people that they care about them so they can get their votes. Trump blew this out of the water! It was amazing! He identified and connected with large groups of people who had been made to feel like they didn't matter (mostly by Democrats), and convinced them all that he cared about them. Anyone who wonders how he won the election (and how he might win it again), that's how. And, yeah, I'm sure it was awesome for those people to watch him turn the venom up to 11 when it came to attacking the other side. I'm sure it was fun watching the other side swing and miss whenever they tried to hit back (which is basically what happened every single time).

But other than giving his base something to point at, yell at, and laugh at in much the same way a high school bully does when he's picking on someone and everyone else is watching and laughing, what has he actually done? Is their healthcare better? Do they have better jobs? Have they been able to buy their own homes or are they mostly still renting and living paycheck to paycheck? What are the opportunities that exist for them now that didn't exist before Trump was president?? I'd be willing to guess that it's almost nothing. Trump was very honest and candid in one aspect. He behaved exactly the way he said he would and the way we all expected him to, and maybe for a lot of his supporters that's enough. But, if so, then that's really sad to think that we now live in a world where people are satisfied by simply watching a guy throw a bunch of shit around. That's basically all he's done. And the fact of the matter is he doesn't care about most of his base on any real personal level other than wanting their votes. He certainly didn't before, and I seriously doubt he does now. Whether it's today or whether it was 15 years ago had most of them even set foot in the lobby of one of his hotels or businesses, they would have been escorted out within minutes just for being there.

[94GRAD]

No, no ,no....this simply can't be. The LP is noble and fighting for the cause of getting Trump out of office in order to restore decency and respect to the american political system. There's just no way they are trying to get rich by pulling on the emotions of a perpetually offended electorate. Progressives are way to refined and educated to let themselves be manipulated. That's only something that can happen to Republicans because they're simple minded..right?

If Trump loses there are going to be a lot of media/activist types who are going to need to reinvent themselves because they are going to run out of material and money. These guys (all white guys) are just ahead of the curve. They are pure capitalists..nothing more.

SNL had a commercial about this exact problem

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bII8AH5t6zI

[noteggs]

I'm confused on what your stance is here. Are you saying we shouldn't investigate whether the allegations are credible because the media didn't investigate the Steele Dossier 4 years ago? Was that the pee tape thing? I thought that got dismissed pretty quickly when no real evidence was brought to bear, other than people who hated Trump anyway and thought it would be great if there was actually a Pee Tape.



Are you asking why anyone should investigate whether the claims are true? I guess only if you want to to know. Maybe even the FBI if they are alleging a crime was committed. I'm certainly not just going to take Guiliani at his word for it, though.

I brought up the Steele dossier because it was unverified and the press had no problem what so ever to jump all over the buzzfeed article with their own take and no it didn’t die quickly. Heck just google “2017 CNN Steele dossier”. Also, CNN won a WHCA award for all of its “informative” coverage. This is a stark contrast on how the press has handled the Bidens business dealings.

Where did the Steele dossier actually come from? Hillary’s own opposition research firm Fusion GPS then leaked to Buzzfeed (James Clapper leaked information to CNN). Yes it’s true that Fusion GPS worked with Rubio’s campaign during the GOP primary, but that was before they hired Steele in April of 2016. So are people on this board now saying the press has now found integrity and values 3 years later? Or is it because the hard drive article is about a Democratic candidate who has been given a free pass over the last year for his potential involvement with China and Ukraine?

More disturbing, the FBI used this information to get an illegal FISA warrant on a US citizen. Both Rosenstein and Comey said the Dossier shouldn’t have been used and noted they knew it originated from her campaign and the DNC.

Bottom line wish press would have vetted this whole Ukraine and China stuff a long time ago versus Joe, campaign, his lawyers said it wasn’t so. If Biden gets elected and Republicans hold the Senate, it’s just going to be another shit show we’ve seen over the last four years with hearings. Well that’s probably going to happen anyway.

[xubrew]

And, almost on cue, a White House Press Release where the Trump Administration is credited for ending the COVID 19 pandemic.

WOW!! I mean...HOLY SHIT!!

Even among con men, this guy stands out. If you believe that the pandemic is now over and that Trump ended it, then you have been conned. BIG TIME!!

See about half way down...

https://www.politico.com/f/?id=00000...f-6fdfff5c0000