Covid-19

[Muskie in dayton]

For malaria and lupus. Anyway, I doubt the lying SOB is taking it anyway. He just said that bcuz Rick Bright was on 60 minutes and said it was unsafe. Afterall, he's lied 18k times. The morons that follow him boosted prescriptions by 46x, even tho it has terrible side effects:

headache, dizziness, ringing in your ears; paranoia,
nausea, vomiting, stomach pain; hallucinations,
loss of appetite, weight loss; pychosis, spinning sensation
mood changes, feeling nervous or irritable;
skin rash or itching; confusion, seizures, blurred vision
hair loss, and my favorite "unusual thoughts and behavior".

So Bobby, what if your Dr. told you that you had COVID-19, and he/she told you that you are a excellent candidate to have positive benefits from the hydroxyquinoline, would you take it?

[Lamont Sanford]

So Booby, what if your Dr. told you that you had COVID-19, and he/she told you that you are a excellent candidate to have positive benefits from the hydroxyquinoline, would you take it?

Great question. It might also cure you of the TDS (Trump Derangement Syndrome) you presently are afflicted with as well.

[boozehound]

So Bobby, what if your Dr. told you that you had COVID-19, and he/she told you that you are a excellent candidate to have positive benefits from the hydroxyquinoline, would you take it?

I don't think anyone would take particular issue with Trump (or anyone else) taking hydroxychloroquine if prescribed by a Doctor. I think people are taking more issue with his touting it as some kind of major breakthrough in treatment or prevention of COVID-19 for whatever reason drives him to do so. Hopefully people's Doctors don't start recklessly prescribing it to people who shouldn't be taking it, but some Doctors are also reckless.

Being the President of the United States of America used to mean thinking carefully before you spoke, not giving false hope or making misleading statements, etc. It doesn't mean that anymore. At least not right now. I don't really care that much about this personally - This probably isn't even in the top 50 of ridiculous shit Trump has said / done this year, but I can see why people do.

[kmcrawfo]

https://www.researchgate.net/publica...vidence_Review

https://www.researchgate.net/publica...vidence_Review

[boozehound]

https://www.researchgate.net/publica...vidence_Review

https://www.researchgate.net/publica...vidence_Review

I don't know. Those articles look like they were written by a bunch of liberals and Chinamen. I'm going to wait to see what Breitbart weighs in with.

In all seriousness: Thanks to our resident Doctor (or one of them at least) for posting some actual data.

[D-West & PO-Z]

One thing that has been baffling to me, as someone who works in the skilled nursing facility industry and has had employees who had symptoms and/or tested positive and went to their PCPs, is how little a lot of the PCPs know about COVID-19 and the proper instructions to give regarding time off from work (especially for healthcare workers) etc.

The PCP's have been all over the board in regards to getting someone tested or not tested, their return to work recommendations (which at times seem to be rooted only in their opinion and nothing recommended by CDC), how long to quarantine etc. It is just truly baffling. We have given our employees guidance from the CDC for healthcare workers returning to work etc to take with them to show their PCP's if they are sick and/or getting tested.

Quick example.... We had one employee who was sick, went to see her PCP who said he didnt want to test her (he didnt know where to send her is what I gathered) and told her to take a couple days off and return to work in 3-4 days. Doing the extensive amount of research of ODH and CDC guidelines we have done and are doing as a company, and knowing our employees risk of exposure in a SNF and her risk to bringing it in, we knew this couldn't fly. We had the employee talk to her PCP again, educate him with regards to our information and her risks etc and tell him where we have had other employees tested and then he wrote an order for her to be tested. She then tested positive. Can you imagine her going back into a nursing home with his original recommendation if we/she didnt push him for testing and educate him? Then he wrote he off for an amount of time that also didn't follow any recommended guidelines, especially for healthcare workers.

It has been maddening the inconsitencies with the PCPs and what they know and dont know. Also I Have had to contact several different county health departments for various reasons and they all do things differently as well and different from what ODH recommends. Craziness.

[GoMuskies]

Did you ever work for P&G? That post was quite acronymy. :)

[kmcrawfo]

One thing that has been baffling to me, as someone who works in the skilled nursing facility industry and has had employees who had symptoms and/or tested positive and went to their PCPs, is how little a lot of the PCPs know about COVID-19 and the proper instructions to give regarding time off from work (especially for healthcare workers) etc.

The PCP's have been all over the board in regards to getting someone tested or not tested, their return to work recommendations (which at times seem to be rooted only in their opinion and nothing recommended by CDC), how long to quarantine etc. It is just truly baffling. We have given our employees guidance from the CDC for healthcare workers returning to work etc to take with them to show their PCP's if they are sick and/or getting tested.

Quick example.... We had one employee who was sick, went to see her PCP who said he didnt want to test her (he didnt know where to send her is what I gathered) and told her to take a couple days off and return to work in 3-4 days. Doing the extensive amount of research of ODH and CDC guidelines we have done and are doing as a company, and knowing our employees risk of exposure in a SNF and her risk to bringing it in, we knew this couldn't fly. We had the employee talk to her PCP again, educate him with regards to our information and her risks etc and tell him where we have had other employees tested and then he wrote an order for her to be tested. She then tested positive. Can you imagine her going back into a nursing home with his original recommendation if we/she didnt push him for testing and educate him? Then he wrote he off for an amount of time that also didn't follow any recommended guidelines, especially for healthcare workers.

It has been maddening the inconsitencies with the PCPs and what they know and dont know. Also I Have had to contact several different county health departments for various reasons and they all do things differently as well and different from what ODH recommends. Craziness.

We require to be at least 7 days from the time of diagnosis and at least 72 hours completely symptom free (no fevers, no symptoms, at all). Whichever time frame is greater. Then all contact tracing is done and anyone deemed a contact risk must self-isolate for 14 days before returning to work.

This is a real disease and it is bad. Excluding people that work in my clinics or that I know from Healthcare, I know 4 people who have died from this.

27 yo Pilates instructing returned from trip to China. Dead 2 weeks later
43 yo previously healthy man. Rapid pulmonary symptoms. Dead 4 days later
Man in his 60s. Feel broke his hip at home. Made it through the surgery okay. When to long term rehab center. Got Covid at that facility. dead 2 weeks later.
Man in his 70s in my neighbor. Daily jogger. Caught it from somewhere. Dead a few weeks later.

If you include healthcare and patients, this list grows a lot.

For what it is worth after reviewing the studies and evidence I am aware of, I personally would take hydroquinone, zinc, and a z-pack the second I tested positive and had mild symptoms. It seems to have the best success when done early. I would not take the drug prophetically to prevent disease based on current data.

[XU 87]

Two different policies, two different results.

https://nypost.com/2020/05/16/blame-...homes-goodwin/

[boozehound]

Two different policies, two different results.

https://nypost.com/2020/05/16/blame-...homes-goodwin/

I 100% agree. That was a huge mistake that makes no sense to me at all. I can only assume that they were preparing for such a deluge of cases in hospitals (cases that in almost all instances never came) that they didn't want to use up space and beds on non-critical patients so the began discharging people wherever they could, including nursing homes. There was enough data at the time from China and Seattle that they should be been able to formulate a better response.

I live in Camden County and we have 279 deaths from COVID with 200 of those coming from Long Term Care facilities. It's outrageous and a complete failure.