Covid-19

[Juice]

Maybe we could start with your parents.

We stayed away for a few weeks. I’ve seen them the last week or two. My dad has been working this whole time (essential job).

Everyone is fine. And they’re in the over 60 age group.

[Smails]

https://www.forbes.com/sites/alexand.../#4c01f8f5df8f

Damn socialists @ Forbes.

LOL... The Dr. who asserts that Covid can be spread through vent systems is also developing a vent system that prevents his assertion. Perhaps looking to get some kind of vent filter patented? That cat definitely aint a socialist...that's capitalism at it's finest.

[Masterofreality]

Today’s Reality Check for Ohio:
Model Projection of new Cases per Day (Mitigated) 2,000 on April 17.(Projected for yesterday 4/30 shows 1,092-OSU model,1,021 for 5/1)
1. Today's Actual new reported Cases: 716- less than the model which has never been reached despite more testing.
Highest Daily Total Increase in cases since report began on 3/9: 1380- Monday 4/20 with 56 probable/assumed- A LOT from the Marion County prison. Never anywhere NEAR the projected peak. NEVER
2. Actual TOTAL Hospitalizations: 3,634 (up only 101 from yesterday) since reporting began over a month ago. Never any overrun.
Where are the Marion County cases that were supposed to swamp after all that Testing over a week ago?
3. Actual TOTAL ICU admits: 1,056 since reporting began a month and a half ago (up only 21 from yesterday.) Never any overrun.
Where are the Marion County cases that were supposed to swamp after Testing??
4. New Deaths today: 27 to 1,002 total. .
Total Ohio Hospital Beds: 34,000
Total Ohio ICU Beds: 2500
Ohio Population; 11.7 million

The ridiculous "Lockdown" continues, although DeWine, feeling the political winds apparently, changed the "Stay At Home" order last night to "Stay Safe Ohio" today. Obviously the people are speaking and Mikey is getting nervous that a revolt is afoot.
Also. There is now more and more indications that the reported "cases" of Covid19 may just be trumped up. Just follow the money as this Fact Check from liberal leaning USA Toaday even printed. More money for the hospitals from Medicare and insurance companies if a case is reported as Covid or someone who just may have the flu is put on a ventilator, of which there are plenty now. Where the hell is the shortage that Cuomo and Sixty Minutes were screaming about a couple of weeks ago? The ventilator air is getting a bit stale.


https://www.usatoday.com/story/news/...us/3000638001/

[Lloyd Braun]

DeWine wore a Xavier tie today. I bet he reads this thread...

[Masterofreality]

We stayed away for a few weeks. I’ve seen them the last week or two. My dad has been working this whole time (essential job).

Everyone is fine. And they’re in the over 60 age group.

We saw our grandkids yesterday. And Yeah. Everyone is fine, and we're in the over 60 age group with a immuno-compromised wife in our couple.

And I have a question. Has any disease where someone is "asymptomatic", that is not affected or feeling it in the least, ever been considered "infected" before? if you're sick, you're sick aren't you? If you aren't you aren't, right? I'm sure I may have had a cold before that I barely felt, but passed it along to someone else. There is so much about the reporting on this thing that seems so fear-monger sided.

[Lloyd Braun]

We saw our grandkids yesterday. And Yeah. Everyone is fine, and we're in the over 60 age group with a immuno-compromised wife in our couple.

And I have a question. Has any disease where someone is "asymptomatic", that is not affected or feeling it in the least, ever been considered "infected" before? if you're sick, you're sick aren't you? If you aren't you aren't, right? I'm sure I may have had a cold before that I barely felt, but passed it along to someone else. There is so much about the reporting on this thing that seems so fear-monger sided.

Chlamydia and TB come to mind. I’m sure there are more.

[D-West & PO-Z]

We saw our grandkids yesterday. And Yeah. Everyone is fine, and we're in the over 60 age group with a immuno-compromised wife in our couple.

And I have a question. Has any disease where someone is "asymptomatic", that is not affected or feeling it in the least, ever been considered "infected" before? if you're sick, you're sick aren't you? If you aren't you aren't, right? I'm sure I may have had a cold before that I barely felt, but passed it along to someone else. There is so much about the reporting on this thing that seems so fear-monger sided.

Big problems can come from it though. It isnt like passing a cold.

We came to realize at one nursing facility that there was an asymptomatic employee who tested positive. No symptoms whatsoever at any point, but clearly that person can't continue going to work and had to be off for the recommended time per the CDC.

[xavierj]

Big problems can come from it though. It isnt like passing a cold.

We came to realize at one nursing facility that there was an asymptomatic employee who tested positive. No symptoms whatsoever at any point, but clearly that person can't continue going to work and had to be off for the recommended time per the CDC.

Yeah the nursing homes will have to take big precautions but they always should. Most people in nursing homes days are numbered.

[kmcrawfo]

Thank you for the info. You obviously know this well. Do you think we should stay locked down? Or do you think we over protect the people susceptible to possibly dying from this? Do you think the country can sustain the continued high unemployment without causing a bigger impact on mental health and loss of peoples future retirement? Also in nursing homes I would think the yearly death rate is much higher already than the general public, correct? Not to sound insensitive, but do we sacrifice everyone else for minuscule of the population? Even if 200,000 people in the US ended up dying, which is still horrible, that still would only account for .06% of the US population. And this thing is not going to just go away. So at some point you have to weigh what is best for 327 million people as a whole.

I am an very conservative, keep the government out of my life kind of guy so I generally oppose anything that limits freedom, liberty, etc by the government. Personally, I don't think our country and economy can survive a long term lock down as it is now. We have to find a way to get things opened back up to some degree. If people could be trusted to be sensible, responsible, and respect the danger of this virus I would hope that we could open things back up with a degree of common sense precautions. Elderly and immunocompromised should continue to self-select and isolate themselves. Movie theaters, sporting events, etc. would need to make some major adjustments to seating and conditions. Same with air planes, etc.

I think when we do open things back up there likely be a spike and a lot more peopel will die. As long as our hospitals and healthcare systems don't become overwhelmed we can probably push through that spike, but have to be prepared to adjust quickly when appropriate. One of my biggest concerns for my offices is that I can not get PPE. I have about 17 N95 masks for my entire staff right now. I personally own 2 respirators which are a bitch to wear and I have to pay through the nose on ebay to get replacement filters.

If people would actually wear masks, actually try to do some social distancing, and use common sense we could probably open things back up. If people think they can jsut go crazy and go back to life as usual they likely are in for a rude awakening when cases go through the roof.

This is a nastier bug than a lot of people on this board are giving it credit. Social distancing worked and is working. That does not mean the disease is not a bad one.

If we get a reliable treatment and/or vaccine everything changes, of course.

[xavierj]

I am an very conservative, keep the government out of my life kind of guy so I generally oppose anything that limits freedom, liberty, etc by the government. Personally, I don't think our country and economy can survive a long term lock down as it is now. We have to find a way to get things opened back up to some degree. If people could be trusted to be sensible, responsible, and respect the danger of this virus I would hope that we could open things back up with a degree of common sense precautions. Elderly and immunocompromised should continue to self-select and isolate themselves. Movie theaters, sporting events, etc. would need to make some major adjustments to seating and conditions. Same with air planes, etc.

I think when we do open things back up there likely be a spike and a lot more peopel will die. As long as our hospitals and healthcare systems don't become overwhelmed we can probably push through that spike, but have to be prepared to adjust quickly when appropriate. One of my biggest concerns for my offices is that I can not get PPE. I have about 17 N95 masks for my entire staff right now. I personally own 2 respirators which are a bitch to wear and I have to pay through the nose on ebay to get replacement filters.

If people would actually wear masks, actually try to do some social distancing, and use common sense we could probably open things back up. If people think they can jsut go crazy and go back to life as usual they likely are in for a rude awakening when cases go through the roof.

This is a nastier bug than a lot of people on this board are giving it credit. Social distancing worked and is working. That does not mean the disease is not a bad one.

If we get a reliable treatment and/or vaccine everything changes, of course.

Thank you and I agree people need to be sensible but we also have to get back to some normalcy soon the best we can. It’s actually sad for the older people or people in poor health. I doubt the majority want to spend that much time sitting alone in a confined place, especially if they don’t have a ton of time left on earth. Dammed if you do, damned if you don’t I guess. Here’s to hoping for a vaccine soon. And I feel for people like yourself that see the really bad side of this. Most of us have not witnessed what some of the hospitals have for sure.