Covid-19

[Lloyd Braun]

Yes healthcare reimbursements are lower with governmental healthcare and this is because the government being the government. However, what does this have to do with nonprofit vs for profit hospitals? Isn’t that what his post alluded to? Are you suggesting “for profit” is restricting care to those individuals because the government pays for them and has less reimbursement? Or hospitals in general? Just curious...

I mean both systems started losing revenues (reimbursements) because of Obamacare with the expansion of Medicaid. Now if you look at the operating expenses that went to uncompensated care (man is that going to balloon after all this is said and done), they’re basically the same for both. In reality, both systems are basically looking to have more revenue than expenses. As you’re aware, the quality of care has absolutely nothing to do with the decisions the “for profit” hospitals make only those services being offered. Other words, if it doesn’t make financial sense to have some type of organ transplant unit, they won’t offer as a service and patient will need to go to non profit to have it done.

IMO, the words “for profit hospitals” is becoming the new bogeyman. Just like when Marx used the word “Capitalists” to describe the free enterprise.

I’m not suggesting it, I’m saying that it happens, and that it is mostly Medicaid patients. And it even happens in “not for profit” hospital systems. For example there is a very large world renown not for profit hospital system in Cleveland that commonly has contract disputes with the MCO’s for Ohio Medicaid. This will result in thousands of people having to switch doctors or be diverted to a different hospital when in an ambulance or transported after ER stabilization. This used to happen so much that the emergency services just know that if John Doe has Medicaid, he doesn’t go to this hospital and gets taken elsewhere.

[boozehound]

This will be interesting. Bed, Bath & Beyond, Hobby Lobby and the Petco for dog food will be fine. Lining up five deep at the bar during happy hour.....not so much.

This has to be done wisely. I’m not sure the Governor of Georgia is up to the task. He opened the beaches up after only a couple days. Even the mayors of those towns were angry! I pray the people get smarter, but................

This is how I would see it happening. First thing to open back up would be business (workplace) and non-essential retail, but with additional rules in place around capacity and recommended social distancing. Probably cloth masks for everybody in public places for quite a while. It should vary by geography. New York and surrounding areas should probably lag well behind some of the Midwest and Western states that have fewer confirmed cases. Increased testing capacity would be pretty important as well so that we can quickly identify infected individuals and outbreaks and treat / quarantine.

I honestly wonder how much of this could be controlled if we all just did the following: (1) Wear masks in public (2) Don't touch your face (3) Stay home if you are sick.

The idiot factor is going to be tough to control for. Just reading through this thread should tell you that.

[xubrew]

I need a haircut so badly, the back of my neck is like hitting out of the rough at a US Open.

I’m close to letting the wife give a shot at cleaning it up.....

I might just shave it all off. No one will really see me until it all grows back anyway.

[GoMuskies]

I need a haircut so badly, the back of my neck is like hitting out of the rough at a US Open.

I’m close to letting the wife give a shot at cleaning it up.....

I went to the dentist on March 13 and got my hair cut March 14. Got lucky to get in just under the wire. Hopefully barbers are part of the first wave on May 1 so we can all get ourselves cleaned up!

[Masterofreality]

Looks like the jerks that fostered this by their coverup is getting payback.
From the Wall Street Journal:

“China on Friday reported a 6.8% year-over-year contraction in its economy for the first three months of the year—the first quarterly decline in gross domestic product since official record-keeping began in 1992 and likely the first since Mao Zedong’s death in 1976, economists said.
The fall was even steeper compared with the previous quarter: a 9.8% pullback as the coronavirus that first emerged in the central Chinese city of Wuhan spread across the country and around the world, delivering an economic blow unprecedented in modern times.”

Sorry for the Chinese people, but that government deserves a kick in the teeth. Maybe next time...

[GoMuskies]

Great, they get a negative 6.8%. We're going to have, what' negative 10%? And negative 25-35 in the second quarter?

[SM#24]

https://twitter.com/Super70sSports/s...14600118067204

[xu82]

https://www.facebook.com/MemeRightPo...34752109969714

[Juice]

A sew serological study from Stanford doctors suggests that the true population of Americans infected with the Wuhan coronavirus could be 50 to 85 times larger than what's been suggested thus far by coronavirus tests. https://medrxiv.org/content/10.1101/...463v1.full.pdf

https://twitter.com/seanmdav/status/...434070016?s=20

"If our estimates of 48,000-81,000 infections represent the cumulative total on April 1, and we project deaths to April 22, we estimate about 100 deaths in the county. A hundred deaths out of 48,000-81,000 infections corresponds to an infection fatality rate of 0.12-0.2%."

https://twitter.com/seanmdav/status/...757579779?s=20

Stanford did a study on Santa Clara County. Currently, only 1700 people have been diagnosed with Corona and 66 people have died. That's a crude fatality rate of 3.6%. If the deaths are at 66 and the true infected population is 48K then the fatality rate is .14%. If the range is at the upper end of 81K people were infected then the fatality rate is not even .1%.

Who know if any of this is true, but more and more studies are showing how wrong our "experts" might have been.

[STL_XUfan]

https://twitter.com/seanmdav/status/...434070016?s=20


https://twitter.com/seanmdav/status/...757579779?s=20

Stanford did a study on Santa Clara County. Currently, only 1700 people have been diagnosed with Corona and 66 people have died. That's a crude fatality rate of 3.6%. If the deaths are at 66 and the true infected population is 48K then the fatality rate is .14%. If the range is at the upper end of 81K people were infected then the fatality rate is not even .1%.

Who know if any of this is true, but more and more studies are showing how wrong our "experts" might have been.

Also shows that we are way behind in testing to provide enough information to correct the projections. I think when historians look back on this pandemic, the loss time in mass producing testing due to not being alerted earlier by the Chinese and not taking enough action once we were alerted is going to be the major factor in both the economic and medical losses.