Covid-19

[Muskie in dayton]

Here’s another consideration for inflated diagnosis, psychosomatic cases:
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[Juice]

Here’s another consideration for inflated diagnosis, psychosomatic cases:
https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.psy...eel-sick%3famp

E.g. Julie Dicaro

[smileyy]

My point was about hospitals "losing revenue" because all they're doing is treating less profitable Covid cases. Why TF should a place that saves lives worry about revenue?

[XU '11]

My point was about hospitals "losing revenue" because all they're doing is treating less profitable Covid cases. Why TF should a place that saves lives worry about revenue?

Because saving lives costs money, no matter the system. That revenue can come in the form of direct payment, payment from insurance companies, or from taxes. But revenue is always required to pay for a service.

Unless you want to compel doctors and nurses to work for free?

[xu82]

My point was about hospitals "losing revenue" because all they're doing is treating less profitable Covid cases. Why TF should a place that saves lives worry about revenue?

I haven’t gone way back and analyzed previous comments. But.....as for what you just posted, with all due respect (seriously), how do you even ask that question? Whether it be public or private, hospitals are like any other organizations, they need to survive financially.

Where do you work? How long would that last if you did it for free? How do you pay people to save the lives if you don’t have the inflow of cash to do so? Should people be risking the health and welfare of themselves and their families for free for the opportunity to treat the sick? I think revenue makes all that possible, and I respect the hell out of the people who continue to do it for their “regular pay”.

I’m just trying to understand.

[Lloyd Braun]

I don’t want to put words in smileyy’s mouth but what I got out of that comment is that it does not seem right that a decisions are being made whether to save a life because they might lose money. This actually already happens on a fairly regular basis unfortunately. In Ohio, Medicaid (and Medicare to a lesser degree) does not reimburse to nearly the same level as commercial insurance. So it is not unheard of for hospitals to divert Medicaid patients to other hospitals so their beds have a patient that they will see more cash flow. Should someone receive better health care because they have more money? That’s a tough question to answer....

[Juice]

Heather Long
@byHeatherLong

BREAKING: 5.2 million Americans filed for unemployment last week, a staggering number, although slightly less than the record 6.9 million from the week ending March 28.

**22 million have applied for unemployment in past 4 weeks**

US unemployment rate is likely ~15%

[boozehound]

I haven’t gone way back and analyzed previous comments. But.....as for what you just posted, with all due respect (seriously), how do you even ask that question? Whether it be public or private, hospitals are like any other organizations, they need to survive financially.

Where do you work? How long would that last if you did it for free? How do you pay people to save the lives if you don’t have the inflow of cash to do so? Should people be risking the health and welfare of themselves and their families for free for the opportunity to treat the sick? I think revenue makes all that possible, and I respect the hell out of the people who continue to do it for their “regular pay”.

I’m just trying to understand.

In general I don't think that those who oppose for-profit Healthcare oppose Healthcare professionals being paid (and paid well). I think that they oppose the model in which a hospital is expected to generate profit for the ownership/shareholders as a goal rather than providing the best care for patients. They aren't asking the staff to work for free (obviously).

[xu82]

In general I don't think that those who oppose for-profit Healthcare oppose Healthcare professionals being paid (and paid well). I think that they oppose the model in which a hospital is expected to generate profit for the ownership/shareholders as a goal rather than providing the best care for patients. They aren't asking the staff to work for free (obviously).

I think you can have more than one goal. Just my opinion, but I don’t think you have to choose between the two if you do it correctly. He asked why a place that saves lives has to worry about revenue. On some level, everyone needs to worry about revenue. It would be great if we had unlimited resources to pay the staff and keep the lights on while paying for all that fancy equipment, but that money has to come from somewhere. If for profit healthcare can be smarter and/or more efficient than a public option, why should I resent that competition? It’s a tricky balancing act.

This is a rabbit hole I don’t want to go down, so I’ll leave it at that.

[xavierj]

Here’s another consideration for inflated diagnosis, psychosomatic cases:
https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.psy...eel-sick%3famp

So when you say psychosomatic, do you mean like, he can start a fire, with his thoughts?