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    Quote Originally Posted by GoMuskies View Post
    If we don't give a shit if he leaves, why was he offered a scholarship in the first place?
    I'm not saying its not disappointing but some seem to think it is a huge deal and really detrimental to X basketball. I am just saying I cant imagine it is as big of a deal as some feel it is.

    Guys leave all the time that X gave scholarships to that no one cares about. I guess usually after they've shown they dont have much to contribute and we havent seen what Ridder could have given us but from my understanding it wasnt going to be a ton this year which is the one year him leaving impacts the most in terms of not having any time to replace his loss.
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    Quote Originally Posted by D-West & PO-Z View Post
    I'm not saying its not disappointing but some seem to think it is a huge deal and really detrimental to X basketball. I am just saying I cant imagine it is as big of a deal as some feel it is.

    Guys leave all the time that X gave scholarships to that no one cares about. I guess usually after they've shown they dont have much to contribute and we havent seen what Ridder could have given us but from my understanding it wasnt going to be a ton this year which is the one year him leaving impacts the most in terms of not having any time to replace his loss.
    Its the timing and way in which he left........we have lost many guys over the years.....

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    Quote Originally Posted by bleedXblue View Post
    Its the timing and way in which he left........we have lost many guys over the years.....
    Again just dont see this as a huge problem or something to be so worked up about. Definitely dont see it as something that is going to hurt XU in any significant way.

    Disappointing? Sure.
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    I'll weigh in here. I'm sure the kid had good reasons and all, but I'm really not up for babying him. Probably won't call him a name publicly, but behind closed doors and with a few beers in me, that may happen. You can't ignore the fact that the kid, in some way, screwed over X, his teammates, the program, the coaching staff, etc. And don't tell me how many minutes he wasn't going to play. It's a team. Everybody has a role - whether that's on the court during games, on the practice court, in the locker room, in a social environment, whatever.

    I guess where I have a problem with it is that (as some have pointed out) he really didn't give it a fair shot. I know the kid got here early and all, but come on, stick it out for a year. Isn't that where we get the term "give it the ol' college try"? The word was that the kid could absolutely shoot the lights out, but couldn't play a lick of defense. I'm sure the staff told him what he'd have to do in order to get on the court and perhaps he decided he wasn't up for it. Thanks, buddy. If I had to guess how this played out, he's been in the coaches' offices getting "counseled" and at some point Mack and the staff must've been like, "Uhhh, okay, enough with this. We don't have the time to hold your hand any longer, wished the kid some customary good luck, closed the door behind him, and started looking forward. Has to be frustrating when you think about all the time and effort that goes into recruiting a kid.
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    Well said, pimp. Ridder was the first in this recruiting class to be on campus back in June. Dude's been here for three months. He screwed over a lot of people. I just hope he returns every last piece of X gear we gave this snowflake.
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    Quote Originally Posted by ArizonaXUGrad View Post
    Good luck to him, he decided X wasn't the right place for him and honestly that's alright with me. I wish him the best like any other recruit that transfers out. That said, I hope me made an informed decision.

    He came early, practiced, and knew what it was like to be away from home. It could be homesick, it could be practicing with super athletic guys like Marshall and Scruggs. Who knows?
    Yeah, it seems no one here really knows the entire story- lots of speculation - so it seems unfair for us to be so harsh.

    Curious choice of words in his statement on twitter: "I have decided it is in my best interest to leave Xavier University." And then, "Ultimately I need to put my well being before anything else."

    Is it possible there is something else causing him to want to transfer other than a girl or possibly him being homesick? Could he have gotten into a fight with a player or a coach and now he is left feeling like there is some issue that is going to continue if he stays at the school?

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    Quote Originally Posted by IM4X View Post
    Yeah, it seems no one here really knows the entire story- lots of speculation - so it seems unfair for us to be so harsh.

    Curious choice of words in his statement on twitter: "I have decided it is in my best interest to leave Xavier University." And then, "Ultimately I need to put my well being before anything else."

    Is it possible there is something else causing him to want to transfer other than a girl or possibly him being homesick? Could he have gotten into a fight with a player or a coach and now he is left feeling like there is some issue that is going to continue if he stays at the school?
    That or he's simply a milquetoast.
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    Quote Originally Posted by IM4X View Post
    Yeah, it seems no one here really knows the entire story- lots of speculation - so it seems unfair for us to be so harsh.

    Curious choice of words in his statement on twitter: "I have decided it is in my best interest to leave Xavier University." And then, "Ultimately I need to put my well being before anything else."

    Is it possible there is something else causing him to want to transfer other than a girl or possibly him being homesick? Could he have gotten into a fight with a player or a coach and now he is left feeling like there is some issue that is going to continue if he stays at the school?
    Yeah, it is so unfair to be harsh, but fair and responsible to randomly and recklessly speculate about what may have happened.

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    Quote Originally Posted by D-West & PO-Z View Post
    Again just dont see this as a huge problem or something to be so worked up about. Definitely dont see it as something that is going to hurt XU in any significant way.

    Disappointing? Sure.
    I don't think this is really going to have any meaningful long term impact on the program. Or, short term impact for that matter.

    And, I'm certainly not disappointed.

    But I will call this kid a quitter, since.....well he did quit.

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    Quote Originally Posted by MHettel View Post
    I don't think this is really going to have any meaningful long term impact on the program. Or, short term impact for that matter.

    And, I'm certainly not disappointed.

    But I will call this kid a quitter, since.....well he did quit.
    This is the main reason I won't quit drinking.... I don't want to labeled a quitter!
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