Ed Being Shut Down?

[ammtd34]

So why shouldn't JP go pro after this season? Just because someone can make money playing basketball doesn't make it a smart decision to leave school early. If that were the case, there would be very few college seniors because they'd all be leaving early to go play overseas. It gets a little concerning that we just expect our guys who won't even get a sniff in the draft to turn pro.

And trust me, I was as surprised as you are about this guy's reaction to me asking about Trevon.

Not every senior can make a lot of money playing overseas. A kid I grew up with averaged 14 and 8 as a senior in the MAC. Not a super high level player, but obviously an above average college player. He played 4 seasons in Israel for very little money and headed home.

[LA Muskie]

Maybe one or more of you are orthopedic surgeons and have an imformed opinion on what some are now saying is Ed's torn labrum.
Here is a little background:

The socket of the shoulder joint is extremely shallow, and very unstable. This means that the bones of the shoulder are not held in place adequately. Thus, the shoulder joint has a cuff of cartilage called a labrum that forms a cup for the end of the arm bone to move within.
The labrum circles the shallow shoulder socket to make the socket deeper. This cuff of cartilage makes the shoulder joint much more stable, and allows for a very wide range of movements. The labrum is made of a thick tissue that is susceptible to injury with trauma to the shoulder joint. If you have injured your shoulder, a labral tear may be the culprit.
Now , Lady Muskie opined that a tear is a tear and you can't get it " more torn " as you can't get "more wet"
Well , just as you can go from a mist to a shower you can slightly or totally tear your labrum.
A slight tear, in most instances, can be self healed through rest. A total tear requires surgery. If Ed presently has a partial tear and is risking a total tear by continued playing, he should sit. If you tell me that he has been playing with a total tear that defintely needs surgery now, I would question why he has continued to play since a totally torn labrum can not hold the shoulder joint intact with heavy contact.

He has a fully torn labrum. You can play with a fully torn labrum as long as you can bear with the pain. You risk dislocation, but not damage. In an effort to avoid that possibility, and to provide support, he's been wearing a brace in practices and in the last 2 games.

[xu82]

So, just when I thought this nightmare couldn't get any worse.....

[GOX]

Accepting that what you say is true: Ed's labrum is totally torn requiring surgery to repair it, then case closed.
Yes, they are bracing it to provide stability which limits his movement but why do that to him?
Help me understand why it is in Ed's best interest to play at limited capacity and risk dislocations which causes arthritis in the joint.
He isn't making the NBA scouts hungry to have him and is delaying the surgery he needs to get rehabilitated and play basketball again, whether for us next year or the NBA in the future.

[LA Muskie]

Accepting that what you say is true: Ed's labrum is totally torn requiring surgery to repair it, then case closed.
Yes, they are bracing it to provide stability which limits his movement but why do that to him?
Help me understand why it is in Ed's best interest to play at limited capacity and risk dislocations which causes arthritis in the joint.
He isn't making the NBA scouts hungry to have him and is delaying the surgery he needs to get rehabilitated and play basketball again, whether for us next year or the NBA in the future.

I've taken you as far as I can. I can't get inside Ed's head. But I think you can presume that he is very conflicted about it and that he's getting bombarded with advice and pressure from all sides. One could even wonder whether it was more that internal conflict than the injury that resulted in his performance yesterday.

[GOX]

So True!

[mirabilelectu]

So why shouldn't JP go pro after this season? Just because someone can make money playing basketball doesn't make it a smart decision to leave school early. If that were the case, there would be very few college seniors because they'd all be leaving early to go play overseas. It gets a little concerning that we just expect our guys who won't even get a sniff in the draft to turn pro.

And trust me, I was as surprised as you are about this guy's reaction to me asking about Trevon.

Maybe JP will go pro after this season or next, maybe he doesn't want to play pro basketball. I don't think there is any denying that JP doesn't have the profile that Ed and Tre have, so maybe staying longer would help JP get on a team's radar. I think I'm speaking for many people on this board when I say that we don't "expect" our players to do anything other than what is best for them. I'm not saying they should leave to go play for a mid-tier squad and scrape by, but we know that won't be the case for them. If Ed and Tre can play anywhere next year and make life-changing money, then why should they stay? If JP found out that there was a squad willing to pay him life changing money, then I would support his decision to go. It's not NBA or bust anymore; guys can make millions playing in Europe. I remember a quote from Tre's father in which he indicates that he and his wife had worked very hard to provide Tre the opportunity to support himself with basketball. Tre is going to make money playing somewhere, if he ends up staying next year then great, but I support him either way.

[casualfan]

Its not uncommon for a guy to play w a torn labeum.

Its an injury that isnt going to get worse while playing.

[MHettel]

I had surgery for a torn labrum AND a torn rotator cuff at the same time. 4 months later, I had a SECOND surgery because I got frozen shoulder as a consequence of the first surgery. 5 months after THAT I could resume activity. 16 months later, still not right...

Good luck, ed

[D-West & PO-Z]

I had surgery for a torn labrum AND a torn rotator cuff at the same time. 4 months later, I had a SECOND surgery because I got frozen shoulder as a consequence of the first surgery. 5 months after THAT I could resume activity. 16 months later, still not right...

Good luck, ed

Ed isnt at much risk for a frozen shoulder. There are many risk factors, none of which he will have or other facotrs that will happen to a college basketball player.