Crosstown Shootout Game Thread (January 26, 2017)

mirabilelectu · 01-26-2017, 10:21 PM

In how many of our 14 wins have we been trailing after halftime? Does anyone have numbers on that?

KabeX · 01-26-2017, 10:22 PM

Yes it has been. The second half meltdowns are cause for great concern. I think we'll know a lot about this team's near future after Saturday's game. I guess my point was it aint March yet. And I know we have work to do but that's been our M-O in seasons past - work to March. Didn't work out last year but there's still time to get better.

Originally Posted by mirabilelectu

The program is in a great place, but I think most people are taking about this season. It hasn't been one game, this is the exact script in all of our losses.

XfansinKy · 01-26-2017, 11:28 PM

Coach Mack basically said Sean and Rashid are a couple of softies but big Tyrique grew up tonight and needs to get more minutes. I agree.

IM4X · 01-27-2017, 01:21 AM

Originally Posted by scoscox

the fact that mack wasn't consistently laying into them for getting out toughed in every aspect of the game... someone needed to chew them out

Yeah- Mack called out two of his bigs for being soft... and they were... but the same could have been said about him during the game. The bigs were struggling all game and apparently the generic "hey, box out" comment from the sidelines wasn't cutting it. Sit the whole team down and bark a little while showing them exactly what they are doing wrong individually and as a team and how to correct it. Often bigs were out of position and other times there would be one X player (a big) rebounding against 3 or 4 UC players who were crashing the boards hard.

Also, accept some more of the blame tonight. He acted as if the only problem with the team was the poor performance from the bigs... but the truth is he too could have coached better in that second half... and let's be honest... if Trevon didn't shoot at such a ridiculously high precentage- Say he shots at 50% - UC still would likely have won by by eight or more (even if the bigs played better).

Tre's hustle and incredible shooting was very encouraging, but others are simply not stepping up at times (in addition to O'Mara and Gaston) including Gates and JP and Sumner.

**~~nasdadjr~~** · 01-27-2017, 01:45 AM

Originally Posted by Lloyd Braun

Shooting isn't the problem. It's rebounding... obvious to everyone except you apparently.

Funny thing is you think one player having a career night means we are shooting well. Box score and season statistics tell a different tale. This is not an NCAA tournament team. That isn't a bad thing though this team seems entitled like they are supposed to just step on the court and win. Maybe the NIT will be good for them this year. Knock that ego down a few rings then maybe they will do little things like box out and get a rebound

**~~nasdadjr~~** · 01-27-2017, 01:48 AM

Originally Posted by IM4X

Yeah- Mack called out two of his bigs for being soft... and they were... but the same could be said for him during the game. The bigs were struggling all game and a generic "hey box out" comment form the sidelines doesn't cut it. Sit the whole team down and bark at them while showing them exactly what they are doing wrong individually and as a team and how to correct it. Often there was one X player rebounding and 4 UC players crashing the boards and at times.

Also, accept some more of the blame tonight. He acted like the only problem was the bigs... but the truth is he could have coached better at times and let's be honest... if Trevon didn't shoot at such a ridiculously high precentage- Say he shots at 50% - UC still would likely have won by more than 10 (even if the bigs played better).

Tre was incredible and that was very encouraging, but others are not stepping up at times (in addition to O'Mara and Gaston) including Gates and JP and Sumner.

Gates can't step up when he refuses to go inside the arc. He is nothing but an absolute waste of 6-9 or 6-10. There is no reason a guy his size should only be getting 1-2 boards a game. He needs to be forced inside to man up cause what he is doing now ain't cutting it

**~~nasdadjr~~** · 01-27-2017, 01:54 AM

Originally Posted by X Factor

That was the worst performance by Xavier bigs I have ever witnessed. Gaston and O'Mara got abused so bad I can't even believe it. Tyrique couldn't finish either, but at least he banged and got the FT line, and then made his FT's.

Tre's performance was one for the ages, but now it won't go down in Xavier history like it should have.

We need a SERIOUS upgrade in big men.

Sumner still isn't able to take over a game. He's still way too easy to slow down on offense or completely shut down.

Quentin was really good tonight. 6 assists and 1 turnover. He ran the offense very good tonight. I thought the offense ran the best with him at the point.

At this point, I would start Quentin, Sumner, JP, Trevon, and either Gates or Tyrique.

1. Definitely not Gates he is softer than Gaston and Omara.

2. For Sumner to get better he needs to develop a jumper opponents respect. Guys can play off him cause he either can't or won't shoot. It is unquestionable Sumner has the speed to blow by anyone but if they play back cause he can't shoot then that negates his speed. He can't take the next step until he learns to shoot.

**~~nasdadjr~~** · 01-27-2017, 05:04 AM

Last thing I'll say though is that I find it funny how last year the team was the epitome of what a basketball team should be. This year it's a 180. I blame Chris Mack for that much. Xavier's mindset this year is the epitome of what is wrong with basketball. Everyone wants to play the Warriors uptempo guard oriented offense. Problem is they can only do that cause they had one specific guy... steph curry. He is the only reason that style works for them. I hope Mack gets back to getting a good traditional big to run through cause it is apparent that the lack of one this year is hurting the entire team.

**Masterofreality** · 01-27-2017, 05:13 AM

Out efforted in a rivalry game? Unacceptable.

The absolute core of what is wrong with this team this year. They ABSOLUTELY are not Too 25 caliber.

And effort is on the Players....not the coach.

REBOUND THE F-ING BALL. EMBARRASSING

xukeith · 01-27-2017, 05:48 AM

Originally Posted by nasdadjr

Funny thing is you think one player having a career night means we are shooting well. Box score and season statistics tell a different tale. This is not an NCAA tournament team. That isn't a bad thing though this team seems entitled like they are supposed to just step on the court and win. Maybe the NIT will be good for them this year. Knock that ego down a few rings then maybe they will do little things like box out and get a rebound

It is a 8-9 seed right now. Only lose 2-3 more BE h=games and X will be in tip top shape. X has an injured pg too.