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    Matches Sagarin Predictor exactly. Hard to be too surprised by that.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Nigel Tufnel View Post
    Well that escalated quickly, I go back to sportsinsights and now it's UC -6. Can't wait to see % of bets placed on each side and line movement. Just for some perspective...

    X was +4.5 @ Baylor, +8 @ Nova and +4 @ Butler.

    If the line goes up from 6, I will be surprised. But if it does...I will likely layoff betting the points and just put a smaller wager on the X Money line. Be happy to throw down a few dollars on X at over 2/1 odds against a team they have owned in recent history.
    Not being a bettor of this sort, what does a line going up this much, so soon usually indicate? Is it usually fans betting early? Is there anything that indicates who is doing the early betting that would move a line, or is it simply pro bettors looking to take advantage of what they deem to be an early discrepancy in their minds?

    Just curiosity.
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    It could mean they have come upon recent news. The most likely thing would be Ed's shoulder. Also some bettors may have lost some faith in X after losing 3 in a row, having a tough game at home against a mediocre Big East team and perhaps a team chemistry problem after the MD fiasco. Just guessing.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Harryfe View Post
    It could mean they have come upon recent news. The most likely thing would be Ed's shoulder. Also some bettors may have lost some faith in X after losing 3 in a row, having a tough game at home against a mediocre Big East team and perhaps a team chemistry problem after the MD fiasco. Just guessing.
    Please stop guessing.

    And the Maryland fiasco was in 2003, perplexing why that is relevant.
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    I would think that MD was a reference to Myles Davis, not Maryland.

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    Quote Originally Posted by American X View Post
    Please stop guessing.

    And the Maryland fiasco was in 2003, perplexing why that is relevant.
    Surely you're being facetious about MD. Someone asked why the line may have changed. Just speculating. This is just a blog and giving possible answers.

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    Quote Originally Posted by vee4xu View Post
    Not being a bettor of this sort, what does a line going up this much, so soon usually indicate? Is it usually fans betting early? Is there anything that indicates who is doing the early betting that would move a line, or is it simply pro bettors looking to take advantage of what they deem to be an early discrepancy in their minds?

    Just curiosity.
    Vee, I probably should have been a little clearer in my last post. In this specific instance, overnight lines opened at UC -3.5. I think Vegas corrected the line this afternoon and actually opened it at -6. I don't think the line change had anything to do with early bets placed on UC. I think Vegas just opened it today at -6. I haven't even seen %'s of bets placed yet. I'm sorry if I caused confusion. Check the %'s and line movement around noon tomorrow to get a better feel.

    While I thought the line would be lower and I was talking about taking X on the money line, I've been watching last year's Shootout tonight....and my confidence is waning by the minute. Remy, Myles and especially Farr were big in that game. Yikes.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Harryfe View Post
    It could mean they have come upon recent news. The most likely thing would be Ed's shoulder. Also some bettors may have lost some faith in X after losing 3 in a row, having a tough game at home against a mediocre Big East team and perhaps a team chemistry problem after the MD fiasco. Just guessing.
    Those might be the reason the line is -6....but as previously explained, not the reason it moved up...it started there. Overnight lines are a guess. They are usually pretty close to the actual line. But in this case...not so much.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Harryfe View Post
    Surely you're being facetious about MD.
    I am never facetious about Maryland or doctors.

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    The line had fallen from an opening +6 to 4.5 and still moving south. I/u holding at 136.
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