Give me myles davis, or give me death!!

[D-West & PO-Z]

Thankfully, Dez was able to get a good chunk of money from the settlement, even though that doesn't clear the internet of bullshit accusations and articles. Even the NCAA who makes the wrong decision 99% of the time had the common sense to allow him to play right away rather than sit out a season

According to some posters he got ZERO. I personally have no idea but I would be surprised if they settled and he got nothing. Just find it funny that there are such wide ranging opinions (reports? not sure what to call them) on what Dez got in the settlement.

[D-West & PO-Z]

Not any more than losing by 4.

I think a 1 point close loss is harder to move on from than a drubbing. Learn from it, forget it, and move on, Xavier teams have had no problems doing that in the past.

[Xville]

Now you are both equivocating and moving the goal posts. You initially said Dez didn't do anything wrong, now you are saying he didn't do anything illegal. Also, he did a few things that were wrong, if the rumors are true:

1. Allegedly he was in the dorms when he was not supposed to be, violating school policy.
2. Allegedly he was drinking underage, which is both illegal and violates school policy.
3. Allegedly he lied saying he would use a condom and didn't, which may be illegal and is definitely wrong, and you would agree if it were your daughter (no matter how stupid the girl's actions, his are not justified).
4. Allegedly he used the girl, which while neither illegal nor against school policy is still wrong.
5. I would argue premarital sex is also wrong, morally.
6. Also, if I remember correctly, he was in a probationary period at the time of the incident. If correct, several of the above would be grounds for dismissal, but add one more thing to the list of wrongs either way, he violated his probation, which is wrong.

The fact that some may consider these trivial offenses does not change the fact that he did indeed do several wrong things, contrary to your original statement:

"Dez didn't do anything wrong."

So he is alleged to have done several things wrong and at least one illegal thing, your equivocation and moving of the goal posts notwithstanding. If the above are true I would also have chosen to throw him out. Winning isn't that important to me relative to doing what is right.

Principal

Yikes....how is the weather up there from your ivory tower?

You think premarital sex is morally wrong? How? It is "wrong" in catholic doctrine, and probably in a few other religions which I'm not familiar with but morally? Disagree.

And as a few others have said, if you weren't hanging out in dorms and drinking a few beers here and there, you missed out on a part of the college experience.

Now the condom thing...ok i can see people's viewpoints there, if that actually happened. However, even then, it very much sounds to me from everything that I have heard that Dez was railroaded and much of that was because of the other issues the school was having with sexual assaults and coverups at the time from good ole boy Luther Smith

[Olsingledigit]

100% with Ville on this

[nuts4xu]

Are we really talking about Dez Wells?

I think he is collecting social security by now. Whatever decisions made about his situation are completely unrelated to the Myles Davis suspension.

While we are at it, let's compare Myles Davis to how we treated Dedrick Finn, Lloyd Price, or Aaron Turner while we are at it. The Xavier admins did them wrong too!!

This injustice will not stand, man!

[ammtd34]

I think a 1 point close loss is harder to move on from than a drubbing. Learn from it, forget it, and move on, Xavier teams have had no problems doing that in the past.

Yep.

[XMuskieFTW]

Got busted for drinking in the dorms two years before the Dez thing. We got a 50 dollar fine and had to watch some hour long video at our leisure. I know guys who got busted 8-9 times for drinking in the dorms just their freshman year and there was never any chance of expulsion. He was totally railroaded because of the other issues the school was having at the time.

[bleedXblue]

Got busted for drinking in the dorms two years before the Dez thing. We got a 50 dollar fine and had to watch some hour long video at our leisure. I know guys who got busted 8-9 times for drinking in the dorms just their freshman year and there was never any chance of expulsion. He was totally railroaded because of the other issues the school was having at the time.

hence the reason why he was absolved by the Hamilton County Prosecutor and was allegedly awarded a monetary settlement

[Juice]

LOL, I thought the same thing

If you went to college and never drank in a dorm room and chased girls, I worry about you

or guys, it's 2017.

[Muskeagle]

Now you are both equivocating and moving the goal posts. You initially said Dez didn't do anything wrong, now you are saying he didn't do anything illegal. Also, he did a few things that were wrong, if the rumors are true:

1. Allegedly he was in the dorms when he was not supposed to be, violating school policy.
2. Allegedly he was drinking underage, which is both illegal and violates school policy.
3. Allegedly he lied saying he would use a condom and didn't, which may be illegal and is definitely wrong, and you would agree if it were your daughter (no matter how stupid the girl's actions, his are not justified).
4. Allegedly he used the girl, which while neither illegal nor against school policy is still wrong.
5. I would argue premarital sex is also wrong, morally.
6. Also, if I remember correctly, he was in a probationary period at the time of the incident. If correct, several of the above would be grounds for dismissal, but add one more thing to the list of wrongs either way, he violated his probation, which is wrong.

The fact that some may consider these trivial offenses does not change the fact that he did indeed do several wrong things, contrary to your original statement:

"Dez didn't do anything wrong."

So he is alleged to have done several things wrong and at least one illegal thing, your equivocation and moving of the goal posts notwithstanding. If the above are true I would also have chosen to throw him out. Winning isn't that important to me relative to doing what is right.

Principal

I don't know how people can sweep this one under the rug. I don't think Principal is trying to "talk from the ivory tower" or even necessarily say that he agrees with the punishment, but simply pointing out that he DID do things that are considered wrong by the institution he represented. One of you mentioned the fine you got for drinking in the dorms....a fine you got because you were doing something against school policy. No one (no one here at least) is saying he or she is against pre-marital sex, but if the bolded statement is true (which I've heard was the big thing) then he did NOT have CONSENSUAL premarital sex. The girl consented to sex with a condom...NOT without. He was expelled by a jury of his peers by the way. You can be expelled for many things that may not be "illegal" in the city/state/country you live in....they just have to violate the insitutions policies. IF number 3 is true, then as much as I liked Dez as a player, as much as he seemed to be a good kid who maybe made a bad decision, as much as he was a leader on the court in in the lockerroom....then I think he got what he deserved. Are there lesser punishments for the other things...or maybe none at all? sure. If he had sex with the girl on the basis of a promised condom....then he needed to go. That's some pretty serious shit...with serious potential consequences...from disease to pregnancy which SHE did not consent to.