Xavier 115 Loyola Marymount 113

[smileyy]

I meant "My memory from this game from when I was a 14 year old"

[PMI]

I meant "My memory from this game from when I was a 14 year old"

Haha, gotcha. I was confused. I'm 26 and I was too young to remember that one.

[Emp]

Yes I was, at the time at the scorer's table, doing the old paper and pencil stats. I was the new guy and had to record the visitor's stats, so my head was down half the game making marks on the scoresheet. I missed a great deal of the Xavier offense. At floor level, it was awesome. Still the greatest X team ever, IMHO. Certainly the most athletic, position for position.

Sidebar: in the early going of the second half, Westhead was complaining that Xavier was again tapping the ball out of bounds after a made basket, which would (slightly) slow down the LMU fast break back up the court. Xavier had been warned in the first half. A second violation was supposed to result in a technical. Westhead was making the "Technical" sign with his hands. The ref turned and saw what he thought was a timeout call, and charged LMU with the timeout. Westhead never called timeouts, and was furious.

Because the game was televised, a long first timeout ensued. Westhead spoke briefly to his team, then started complaining down the scorers table. The correct protocol is to say nothing in response to a visiting coach, but when he got to me, I offered "well it looked like you were calling timeout, coach." He stopped, looked at me hard, and told me I was supposed to keep my mouth shut. The rest of the crew was stage whispering "dont say anything!" I didnt, but as the timeout dragged on and Westhead continued to nurse his mad-on, he came back and started in on me again. Not a peep did I utter.

Later, SID Tom Eiser informed me I was on triple not so secret probation. I managed to hang on at the scorers table until 2004, when some young dudes (Statman among them) with a computer and headset replaced the whole stat staff.

[joebba]

Yes I was, at the time at the scorer's table, doing the old paper and pencil stats. I was the new guy and had to record the visitor's stats, so my head was down half the game making marks on the scoresheet. I missed a great deal of the Xavier offense. At floor level, it was awesome. Still the greatest X team ever, IMHO. Certainly the most athletic, position for position.

Sidebar: in the early going of the second half, Westhead was complaining that Xavier was again tapping the ball out of bounds after a made basket, which would (slightly) slow down the LMU fast break back up the court. Xavier had been warned in the first half. A second violation was supposed to result in a technical. Westhead was making the "Technical" sign with his hands. The ref turned and saw what he thought was a timeout call, and charged LMU with the timeout. Westhead never called timeouts, and was furious.

Because the game was televised, a long first timeout ensued. Westhead spoke briefly to his team, then started complaining down the scorers table. The correct protocol is to say nothing in response to a visiting coach, but when he got to me, I offered "well it looked like you were calling timeout, coach." He stopped, looked at me hard, and told me I was supposed to keep my mouth shut. The rest of the crew was stage whispering "dont say anything!" I didnt, but as the timeout dragged on and Westhead continued to nurse his mad-on, he came back and started in on me again. Not a peep did I utter.

Later, SID Tom Eiser informed me I was on triple not so secret probation. I managed to hang on at the scorers table until 2004, when some young dudes (Statman among them) with a computer and headset replaced the whole stat staff.

Some funny stuff in your story. Love the Animal House reference. I seem to remember technical for inadvertantly grabbing the ball after it goes throgh the net. If you happen to be standing right there it is a reflex reaction.

[smileyy]

I would love to see 1990 vs. 2008. Maybe have a tournament with 2003 and 2004 in there too (or maybe 2009?)

[wkrq59]

That game is in my archived library of Xavier game video. I still go back and watch it on occasion.
Hank Gathers & Bo Kimble vs Jamal Walker, Derek Strong and Ty Hill.
Many people forget that Xavier had played Loyola Marymount out in Los Angeles the year before and won that game too 118- 113.
I''d like to know if 459 combined points in a two game series between two teams is an NCAA record.

MOR, the amazing thing is in that game in Los Angeles, Bo Kimble did not play. He was injured. And it was the game where Jamal Walker calmly made either four straight or six straight free throws at the end of the game to seal it. And before the first two, Mally was standing at the free throw line jawing with Hank Gathers who kept telling him, "Kid, you know you're gonna miss," and Jamal would reply with some comment and then "swish." What was even more fun was watching Magic and Kareem and I forget the other Lakers chatting with the players and coaches in the Marriott restaurant-bar afterwards. Great night to be a Muskie fan."

[Masterofreality]

Jamal Walker remains one of my favorite Xavier Musketeers....ever!

[dcfunk]

That boxscore is classic. 33 offensive rebounds for XU!

Many who didn't watch the XU teams from the late 80s and early 90s don't understand the level of talent we had, while playing in the lowly MCC. I made a comment in another thread that we had teams in those days, before an on-campus arena, before nike contracts, before TV deals, and before a history of NCAA success, that could compete with anyone. I was laughed at. That 1990 team had final 4 talent, no question. It featured three future NBA forwards, including a future lottery pick and NBA All-Star. Heck we had a double digit lead in the 2nd half against Texas in the S16 and let the game slip away.

Our program, on a whole, is much improved now from those days, in every aspect. It's just amazing that we recruited at the level that we did while having minimal resources. We'd get bumped for practice time at the Garden by the Circus. Could you imagine what the 1990 frontcourt would do to this years frontcourt? Wow.