ESPN Top 100 Player rankings....

[Xville]

You dont think it would be helpful to the program if we had a guy that was ranked in the top 10? I'm not talking about some other guy we dont have. But lets say Conwell (which is probably too high for him...much like 101 would be too low). You dont think that extra publicity and notoriety wouldnt benefit the program?

Do you like the Sean Miller Podcast? Do you think its existence helps the Program? what about this upcoming "Hard Knocks" type program that we will be seeing? Does that help? We'd get the same fan interest level and advertising opportunities and recruits whether or not these things existed?

These things help the program from a branding and marketing perspective because it shows who is heading the program, and gives an in depth look into everything within the basketball team.

A subjective list from a writer at ESPN does none of that.

In your original post, it was whining about the BE being proportionally low, I guess that since now that's been pointed out as being wrong, you can't just admit to it, and so now you move it to Xavier in your mind being underrepresented as the problem.

Again, who gives a shit? Subjective opinion from a writer that is heavily influenced by a broadcast network and probably watches less college basketball than most of us.

[drudy23]

You dont think it would be helpful to the program if we had a guy that was ranked in the top 10? I'm not talking about some other guy we dont have. But lets say Conwell (which is probably too high for him...much like 101 would be too low). You dont think that extra publicity and notoriety wouldnt benefit the program?

Do you like the Sean Miller Podcast? Do you think its existence helps the Program? what about this upcoming "Hard Knocks" type program that we will be seeing? Does that help? We'd get the same fan interest level and advertising opportunities and recruits whether or not these things existed?

Sure it helps, but who cares what this guy's opinion is. It's literally one person's opinion. Any one of us could have created a similar list with the same amount of credibility. It's literally meaningless.

It's 10x as meaningless as pre-season polls, and those are pretty meaningless.

[nuts4xu]

I think it's anecdotal information, but nothing to get worked up about.

Will it move the needle for X? It can't hurt but won't make a ton of difference.

Tough crowd on this thread.

[MHettel]

Exactly...just another move of the goalposts from Hett to not have to admit that he's wrong yet again. Seems that now We (Xavier) is now the problem, even though in the OP it was the BE as a whole.

Where did I say that "Xavier is now the problem"?

[GoMuskies]

Where did I say that "Xavier is now the problem"?

If Xavier is not the problem, and there actually is a problem, what exactly is it?

As mentioned upthread, the Big East has 13.9% of power conference programs and 14.5% of power conference players on this list.

[Xville]

I think I’ll recharacterize my initial comment by saying that I don’t think the BE is properly represented. Given its status and profile as an elite “basketball first and only” conference that has achieved 4 NCs in the last decade, I’d simply expect to see more player represented on a top 100 list.

Given the entire landscape of college basketball (375 teams), it’s pretty obvious that if randomized nearly 3 of 4 schools would not be represented at all. And a big power conference with 16 teams would expect about 4 players on the list.

But it’s not random. And the evidence has already been provided. Someone said 18 from the list are from non-power conferences of which there are what, about 25. So less than 1 per conference. Back out Gonzaga and it 15 players representing 25 conferences.

So basically you have 2 groups. The 5/6 “power” conferences which are all OVER represented, and the 25 mid major and low major conferences which are all UNDER represented.

So proportionally, really, no conference is properly represented. I wasn’t planning on having to explain that.


And frankly, when I think of XUs position among the basketball landscape, those 25 “other conferences” don’t really exist. If we are comparing ourselves to to the lower 2/3rds of the field, then we might as well just join them with that small time thinking.

I would like the BE and XU to be among the elite in college basketball. I kinda feel like they are. And yet if these rankings are even somewhat credible then I’ll need to reassess that view.

So proportionally low, relative to the ones we should measure ourselves against.

Uh you mentioned Xavier. So either you now think Xavier is the isssue or you’re doubling down on something that’s already been proven to be incorrect. Whatever way you wanna go

[MHettel]

Uh you mentioned Xavier. So either you now think Xavier is the isssue or you’re doubling down on something that’s already been proven to be incorrect. Whatever way you wanna go

This is a Xavier message board, right? And you think my original post about the BE representation on this list was somehow not related to Xavier?

I mean, had i wrote a post about the Mountain West representation on the list, it wouldn't be a leap to say that the post was unrelated to Xavier. But i probably would have posted that to a message board of a Mountain West team, right?

So a post on a Xavier message board about the conference that Xavier is in had nothing to do with Xavier until I explicitly mentioned Xavier's name ONCE in a subsequent response and then suddenly I've "moved the goalposts." Ok.

[Xville]

This is a Xavier message board, right? And you think my original post about the BE representation on this list was somehow not related to Xavier?

I mean, had i wrote a post about the Mountain West representation on the list, it wouldn't be a leap to say that the post was unrelated to Xavier. But i probably would have posted that to a message board of a Mountain West team, right?

So a post on a Xavier message board about the conference that Xavier is in had nothing to do with Xavier until I explicitly mentioned Xavier's name ONCE in a subsequent response and then suddenly I've "moved the goalposts." Ok.

Your op was about the big East, or are you so caught up in your web of trying not to be wrong, did ya forget that?

When you got called on it, you then mention Xavier. You then asked me when did you mention Xavier about being the problem implying that you never did.

lol you’re a funny person.It’d be a whole lot easier to say you effed up, and you’ll try better next time.

Still the same guy who thinks an fbi raid and subsequent penalties still means that players weren’t getting paid and nothing was ever out in the open lol.

[Xavier]

As mentioned upthread, the Big East has 13.9% of power conference programs and 14.5% of power conference players on this list.

Wonder if this gets addressed. Do I think a recruit looks at this list and flips his choice? No. I don’t think it moves the needle at all in any way. Certainly not more than pointing to the recent NC success the big east has had.

[Xville]

Find me the NBA mock draft site that DOESN'T list Cooper Flagg as the #1 pick in the 2025 draft.

CBS lists those 2 guys as #2 and #3 behind Mark Sears of Alabama.

I skimmed the cbs one… that list on the surface at least made some sense. We shall see if kam jones is any better than Conwell once the year starts. Conwell has to prove it, but from what I have seen so far he has the potential to be the best guard in the be.

In all though who cares. I want x in the second weekend with a chance at the final four.