College Basketball Season 2024-2025

[Xville]

You keep providing ammunition.

Everyone that has seen him play says he’s an all time great kinda player. At age 17. Who hung with the dream team this summer.

That’s nice. Have you watched him play this year?

And who is EVERYONE btw? Because I’ve seen plenty that agree with me as well.

All time great? Let me remind you of who you are placing him with. Lebron, Jordan, Kobe, etc. really think about that for a second and use your brain.


Oooo he looked good in an open gym with nba players. Who gives a shit? So did laettner

[Xville]

Btw there’s nothing wrong with being Keith van horn. He almost single handily got Utah a freaking title and had a fine nba career. He’s just not a generational player.

Media loves hyping guys up, especially white guys that play at Duke.

[MHettel]

That’s nice. Have you watched him play this year?

And who is EVERYONE btw? Because I’ve seen plenty that agree with me as well.

All time great? Let me remind you of who you are placing him with. Lebron, Jordan, Kobe, etc. really think about that for a second and use your brain.


Oooo he looked good in an open gym with nba players. Who gives a shit? So did laettner

Report from the “open gym”. I’m sure none of the team USA players saw these scrimmages as chance to earn a spot at in the starting lineup. And I’m sure the guys on the player select squad all just want went at 50%, not really giving full effort. And I’m sure all the guys involved thought risking injury just for a little game of horse in the open gym made sense. I’m sure this wasn’t competitive at all.

I mean, why would team USA bring in young NBA players to give them some “game action” before the Olympics. Just a pick up game. They probably just played halfcourt, to avoid all that pesky running. Think they called their own fouls too?

[X-band '01]

Good for the league for sure. Them and Marquette are going to have to be the torchbearers this year because the rest of the league doesn’t look great, and losing Isaccs sucks for creighton.

In other news, it will be interesting to see what happens to the mtes including Maui. I hope Maui never goes away but it’s trending that way unless something changes. Teams aren’t all that interested in spending 400k to play a tourney anymore. I haven’t looked but I’ve heard the field next year is pretty weak compared to previous years.

I looked…it’s fine. Not spectacular, but good programs. Talking heads were acting like a lot of the other tourneys are on life support especially the 8 team ones outside of the players era tourney. That may be the next big thing.

We always look like shit in these events so it wouldn't bother me a bit.

I know Xavier has said they're not doing any more 8-team tournaments for the foreseeable future, although you can at least say they're not saying that out of sour grapes after an 0-3 performance at a tournament like this. I know the Preseason NIT and the ESPN Events Invitational (formerly the Old Spice Invitational) reduced their fields to 4 teams this year. The Rady Children's Invitational is more of an offshoot of the Wooden Tournament that used to be an 8-tean field in Southern California.

I haven't even heard if Xavier is even doing a 4-team field for 2025, but I'm sure they would find something that would draw a few notable nonconference opponents. I would imagine Maui would hook up with someone who can provide a similar setup to what the Players Era Invitational had in Las Vegas; I can't imagine that event going away. I could easily see events like Myrtle Beach and Charleston either going the way of the dodo (i.e. the Great Alaska Shootout) or becoming fields for conferences like the Missouri Valley, MAC, etc.

[xubrew]

I know Xavier has said they're not doing any more 8-team tournaments for the foreseeable future, although you can at least say they're not saying that out of sour grapes after an 0-3 performance at a tournament like this. I know the Preseason NIT and the ESPN Events Invitational (formerly the Old Spice Invitational) reduced their fields to 4 teams this year. The Rady Children's Invitational is more of an offshoot of the Wooden Tournament that used to be an 8-tean field in Southern California.

I haven't even heard if Xavier is even doing a 4-team field for 2025, but I'm sure they would find something that would draw a few notable nonconference opponents. I would imagine Maui would hook up with someone who can provide a similar setup to what the Players Era Invitational had in Las Vegas; I can't imagine that event going away. I could easily see events like Myrtle Beach and Charleston either going the way of the dodo (i.e. the Great Alaska Shootout) or becoming fields for conferences like the Missouri Valley, MAC, etc.

Good points all around!

For an event like Maui, while it cost a fortune, it USED to be worth it. Think back 20 years ago. It was an exempt event, so the three games only counted as one game against the number of games the NCAA permitted a school to schedule and you could make a lot of that money back by simply scheduling two more home games. It was also on national TV when all most people had was basic cable, so it was worth the exposure. And, it was a recruiting hook! We're going to play in Maui!

Now...none of that stuff matters as much. It's kind of amazing that the Maui is still able to put together the types of fields that it typically does, but like you I don't see that going on forever in its current format. I do think that eventually a corporate sponsor will come in and provide payouts to the schools that participate.

[Xville]

Report from the “open gym”. I’m sure none of the team USA players saw these scrimmages as chance to earn a spot at in the starting lineup. And I’m sure the guys on the player select squad all just want went at 50%, not really giving full effort. And I’m sure all the guys involved thought risking injury just for a little game of horse in the open gym made sense. I’m sure this wasn’t competitive at all.

I mean, why would team USA bring in young NBA players to give them some “game action” before the Olympics. Just a pick up game. They probably just played halfcourt, to avoid all that pesky running. Think they called their own fouls too?

Have you watched him play? Not saying the guy is a scrub, far from it. The hype about being a generational talent is the issue that I have. I don’t see it.

Again, think about what you are saying when you say that. Theres a very long list of players that were the next thing that turned into complete crap (Ben Simmons comes to mind) or just turned into good or rotational nba players.

[Xville]

Probably a better thread somewhere to put this, but just wanted to give a shout out to our boy, Quincy who scored his first points in an NBA game last night, and of course it was a 3 :) . Congrats on living your dream, Quincy.

[xubrew]

I figured out who cooper Flagg is. He’s Keith van horn lite. Good college player, good nba player. Have no idea what makes people think that Flagg is some amazing transformational player. I’ve watched him play 5 times now, he’s fine. Don’t get the hype.

Let me try to explain. And...in saying that...I feel what I'm about to say is nothing more than a theory. I don't believe it strongly enough to declare it to be a law...

This seems to happen quite a bit. It's this compulsive need amongst the media and fans to want so badly to find the next generational player. They'll just latch on to someone. Different sport, but Tim Tebow was a generational player (at least according to some). Johnny Manziel was a generational player. Reggie Bush was being declared by some to be the best player ever. Back to hoops, I actually remember when people were declaring Demarcus Cousins to be one of the greatest college players ever (until he actually started playing). Remember Sabastion Telfair?? Whatever happened to him anyway??

So...that's what this is. SOMETIMES they do actually hit the bullseye. I have no knowledge at all of the women's game, but Caitlin Clark might actually be an all time generational player. But most of the time, the "generational players" are simply the generational players for this particular year. In a year or two it will be someone else. He's from Maine. He's 17. He plays for Duke. I get the appeal. I get why people would gravitate toward that. And, as we've all observed, he is DAMN good too!! There's also that.

[Xville]

Let me try to explain. And...in saying that...I feel what I'm about to say is nothing more than a theory. I don't believe it strongly enough to declare it to be a law...

This seems to happen quite a bit. It's this compulsive need amongst the media and fans to want so badly to find the next generational player. They'll just latch on to someone. Different sport, but Tim Tebow was a generational player (at least according to some). Johnny Manziel was a generational player. Reggie Bush was being declared by some to be the best player ever. Back to hoops, I actually remember when people were declaring Demarcus Cousins to be one of the greatest college players ever (until he actually started playing). Remember Sabastion Telfair?? Whatever happened to him anyway??

So...that's what this is. SOMETIMES they do actually hit the bullseye. I have no knowledge at all of the women's game, but Caitlin Clark might actually be an all time generational player. But most of the time, the "generational players" are simply the generational players for this particular year. In a year or two it will be someone else. He's from Maine. He's 17. He plays for Duke. I get the appeal. I get why people would gravitate toward that. And, as we've all observed, he is DAMN good too!! There's also that.

he is good, no doubt about it. Hes got a great motor, but so does most nba players. He isn't a great shooter, he's not good off the ball. He's a good defender but there is nothing in his game where I'm like WOW! For someone to be a generational player, i better be thinking wow a lot.

[xubrew]

Wow! What an exciting slate of games tonight!! Must be finals week. I still don't understand what the hell academics has to do with basketball!! Can't we just not have exams?? It makes it so there are no good games!!