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    I’m recalling Jack Nunge’s medical track record before he got to Xavier, and I’m smiling about his record while at Xavier. Hindsight is easy. The injury risk issue works both ways.
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    Quote Originally Posted by MHettel View Post
    Relying on free was a risk. He had foot injuries for parts of 2 seasons and them last year just a few days from being cleared to play he was suddenly out for the year and required another surgery. So the plan was that we would count on him for this year? And shockingly, it didnít work out!

    The hunter situation was tragic and you canít forecast or predict a guy that is otherwise healthy to just miss the whole year.

    However, Iíll go back to a year prior when Miller took over. We had dead weight in Miles, Edwards, Tandy and Ben Stanley. Only Stanley left, but eventually the other guys did too. Maybe some additional turnover was needed then. Imagine bringing in an Nzeh type last year and then maybe this year he would have been able to contribute.

    Thatís a miss in my book.

    No we are 7-8 guys away. I see things in Claude, McKnight, swain and green that I like as individual players. I even like Abou if he can just be a defensive first guy. Iíd give another year to Nzeh and Ciani as well. As individuals. But these guys together didnít work.

    I canít see next year being competitive. We may have some NIL money to fish with, but letís not forget that we may need to make competitive offers to our existing guys just to keep them.
    7-8 guys away? Come on man. Way too much doom and gloom. And how was miller supposed to get a nzeh type player last year again in April when he took over? How many of those guys you think were out there available when there was zero playing time available and was all of a sudden going to be ready to go this year?

    This questioning by you of miller is getting quite ridiculous. The guy has a track record and everyone and their brother says he is an amazing coach. Plus, we have seen it firsthand yet all you have been doing is making excuses for why he isnít. Why?

    Next year, One of hunter/free, a replacement for q and a legit 4/5 and the team is top 5 in be big East and in the tourney. Write it down

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    Quote Originally Posted by Xville View Post
    IMO it depends. If free and or hunter are healthy next year, I think miller can turn it around in one year. Iím not concerned with replacing q, heís a hell of a player but there are always a ton of guards available. Not concerned that miller wonít secure one or two. Now the big is another story and 1 isnít going to cut it. But if itís one plus a healthy free and abou available for depth, then x will be in great shape.
    Abou is out of eligibility.

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    Quote Originally Posted by bleedXblue View Post
    pretty spot on
    No it is not. It is 20/20 hindsight. That's all.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Olsingledigit View Post
    Abou is out of eligibility.
    Quincy Olivari will be out of eligibility; Ousmane still has a grad year remaining.

    Dayvion McKnight also has a grad year remaining, but this will be the last time people will get the extra Covid year.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Xville View Post
    7-8 guys away? Come on man. Way too much doom and gloom. And how was miller supposed to get a nzeh type player last year again in April when he took over? How many of those guys you think were out there available when there was zero playing time available and was all of a sudden going to be ready to go this year?

    This questioning by you of miller is getting quite ridiculous. The guy has a track record and everyone and their brother says he is an amazing coach. Plus, we have seen it firsthand yet all you have been doing is making excuses for why he isn’t. Why?

    Next year, One of hunter/free, a replacement for q and a legit 4/5 and the team is top 5 in be big East and in the tourney. Write it down
    Ok I’ll write it down. Right next to that 13 win big east total you insisted on.

    Also, by the way, if you’ve been watching this team recently, you will see that when their backs were to the wall and they still had a chance to salvage a tourney run, they QUIT.

    The last half dozen or so games have included some of the most listless, lifeless effort I can recall in an XU uniform.

    Rick Pitino has 10 new guys too. He lit his guys up and they stole one against Creighton. We wilted.

    Grade this team out at the end of the year. Q gets an A-, and nobody else higher than a B. Lots of C-, Ds, and Fs. Miller grades out as a C….maybe.

    I’m sorry if you don’t like my viewpoint, but this seasons has been garbage and it’s laid at the feet of the players AND the coaches
    Last edited by MHettel; 02-26-2024 at 06:39 PM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jumpin_Jamal_Forever View Post
    No it is not. It is 20/20 hindsight. That's all.
    Really? He kept 3 guys that didn’t play for an extra year only to have them transfer. Then he lost Free which was foreseeable, and Hunter which was not.

    All I hear is that “there were 10 new players!”, but isn’t that a consequence of millers own decisions?

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    X will never have the bucks to pay our players competitively and the coach competitively. Long term the better play is probably to prioritize funds for the players. Best coach in the world can't win without players.

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    Quote Originally Posted by MHettel View Post
    Ok I’ll write it down. Right next to that 13 win big east total you insisted on.

    Also, by the way, if you’ve been watching this team recently, you will see that when their backs were to the wall and they still had a chance to salvage a tourney run, they QUIT.

    The last half dozen or so games have included some of the most listless, lifeless effort I can recall in an XU uniform.

    Rick Pitino has 10 new guys too. He lit his guys up and they stole one against Creighton. We wilted.

    Grade this team out at the end of the year. Q gets an A-, and nobody else higher than a B. Lots of C-, Ds, and Fs. Miller grades out as a C….maybe.

    I’m sorry if you don’t like my viewpoint, but this seasons has been garbage and it’s laid at the feet of the players AND the coaches
    Whatever. Yeah I was wrong that I thought the frontcourt would develop. Shit happens, but to continually make excuses for why miller isn’t an exceptional coach is ridiculous. Your excuses have been,

    1. Miller should be clairvoyant and knew free was going to get injured again so he should have gotten insurance for it two years ago from someone assured of zero playing time and been able to develop them so they are good to go for this year.

    2. Miller was only good for x because we had the most resources in the a10 so it’s easy to win at x.

    3. He had a lot of resource at Arizona so it’s easy to win at Arizona.

    4. Once free/jerome were injured/out he should have been able to just call on anyone that late in the game to replace them. (He tried but the pool was small and he was very late to the game.)

    5. He is an excuse maker because he had ten new guys , several being freshmen and international, and said they would need time to gel. Gawd forbid

    Anything else I’m missing? Not saying miller is infallible but you have made several comments that are hindsight and out of touch. Maybe you should call miller up and tell him your plan for how to get the train back on the tracks
    Last edited by Xville; 02-26-2024 at 07:01 PM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by MHettel View Post
    Really? He kept 3 guys that didn’t play for an extra year only to have them transfer. Then he lost Free which was foreseeable, and Hunter which was not.

    All I hear is that “there were 10 new players!”, but isn’t that a consequence of millers own decisions?
    Oh miller must have been the one to injure free and give Jerome a heart attack.

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