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    Quote Originally Posted by American X View Post
    You risk college football becoming like college basketball when people only care and it only matters for about a month. The college football season is short enough. I don't want to shrink its relevancy down to a few weeks.
    You wouldn't have that risk at all. You'd actually have more games that more people care about. There are a lot of reasons I think that, but the biggest one is that it wouldn't be nearly as big of a bite as college basketball. There are 358 D1 basketball teams, and of the people who only care what happens for a month, they've probably never heard of about 270 of them, or even realize that there are that many. The teams that they have heard of and that they see in the top 25 are usually going to always be there, so it gives this impression to that sort of fan that the regular season doesn't matter. (They're wrong. It DOES matter. But I can kind of see how people would think it doesn't).

    A 16 team football playoff means that a lot of teams fans see in the polls, and a lot of teams that they have at least heard of and know about, still aren't getting in. The number of games each week with playoff implications would go up. The number of games each week where both teams are playing for a spot in the playoff would go up. But, they wouldn't go up to the point to where there were so many games with playoff implications that it was too many to keep up with and that all of the teams that anyone who had ever heard of were all going to the playoffs.

    Last week UAB played UTSA. No one cared. UTSA is in the rankings, they haven't had football for very long, they're not in a major conference, and it could be a pretty compelling story if a team like that made a 16 team playoff. It was a great game. It came down to the last play. But...no one cared because it didn't matter. Had UTSA lost, and gotten knocked out of the rankings, and had UAB jump over them in the conference standings...so what?? Well, with a playoff, that game would have mattered a lot, and so would a lot of others like it.

    Yes, the way it is now makes the college football season is relevant all season long....for about five percent of the teams. If that.
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    Relevance is not a simple thing. As the fan of a team that until this year had virtually no chance of making into the NC race, I can tell you that we have still had a lot of fun and very important (to the schools and fan bases involved) games. It is NOT all about playing for national championships. There is far more to college football, and college sports in general, than just being a national champion contender. Playing well enough and winning enough games to go to a bowl game has been a big incentive, especially if those bowl games were in warm weather locations. So there wasn’t 100,000 fans in the seats and a national TV audience. That doesn’t mean the fans and the teams weren’t having fun and taking things seriously at the same time. If UC falters, there is a chance that UTSA still could end up in big bowl game, perhaps the Fiesta Bowl, as the top Group of 5 ranked team. Or perhaps another good bowl as an undefeated team. So that last game was surly relevant to them and their fans, even if most people around the country didn’t pay any attention. Even for those teams and players not looking at stellar seasons, or playing big time football, these are still great experiences that they will cherish all their lives. Sure, I’d like to see the playoffs expanded (I favor 8 teams for several reasons) but mainly just because I’d like to see more teams and players get the experience of playing in those kinds of games, not because I realistically think that there much chance of an 8 seeded team actually winning against the top seed.

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    Quote Originally Posted by XUGRAD80 View Post
    Relevance is not a simple thing. As the fan of a team that until this year had virtually no chance of making into the NC race, I can tell you that we have still had a lot of fun and very important (to the schools and fan bases involved) games. It is NOT all about playing for national championships. There is far more to college football, and college sports in general, than just being a national champion contender. Playing well enough and winning enough games to go to a bowl game has been a big incentive, especially if those bowl games were in warm weather locations. So there wasn’t 100,000 fans in the seats and a national TV audience. That doesn’t mean the fans and the teams weren’t having fun and taking things seriously at the same time. If UC falters, there is a chance that UTSA still could end up in big bowl game, perhaps the Fiesta Bowl, as the top Group of 5 ranked team. Or perhaps another good bowl as an undefeated team. So that last game was surly relevant to them and their fans, even if most people around the country didn’t pay any attention. Even for those teams and players not looking at stellar seasons, or playing big time football, these are still great experiences that they will cherish all their lives. Sure, I’d like to see the playoffs expanded (I favor 8 teams for several reasons) but mainly just because I’d like to see more teams and players get the experience of playing in those kinds of games, not because I realistically think that there much chance of an 8 seeded team actually winning against the top seed.
    I don't disagree with you. But, I do think this is an utterly nonsensical reason to make it so that half the teams do not have any fair an equitable access to a playoff regardless of what they do during the regular season. Giving them a path to the playoff wouldn't suddenly dampen or lessen the intangible things about college football that you're alluding to here.
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    I want to congratulate UC on doing what no other group of 5 team has ever been able to do. Well done
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    Quote Originally Posted by muskiefan82 View Post
    I want to congratulate UC on doing what no other group of 5 team has ever been able to do. Well done
    And they follow that up with a game against East Carolina. Their conference is more shitty this year than I can ever remember. All the while OSU plays @ Michigan and Georgia and Alabama play here in a couple weeks.

    UC cant do anything about their schedule, but I can see why the power conferences have issue with them.

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    Quote Originally Posted by bleedXblue View Post
    And they follow that up with a game against East Carolina. Their conference is more shitty this year than I can ever remember. All the while OSU plays @ Michigan and Georgia and Alabama play here in a couple weeks.

    UC cant do anything about their schedule, but I can see why the power conferences have issue with them.
    I get it, but the CFP is also ranking that Notre Dame team UC beat on the road right up there at #6 so......they really have no argument against UC.
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    Quote Originally Posted by bleedXblue View Post
    And they follow that up with a game against East Carolina. Their conference is more shitty this year than I can ever remember. All the while OSU plays @ Michigan and Georgia and Alabama play here in a couple weeks.

    UC cant do anything about their schedule, but I can see why the power conferences have issue with them.
    Not unfair, but Oregon was ranked right up there, and few seemed to have a problem with them. And the Pac-12 is a traveshamockery. Literally worse than the American. Which is not a compliment to the American!

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    Also, nothing against Georgia, as they are awesome, but subtracting the Bulldogs the SEC East may be the worst division in the history of major college football.

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    Ohio State's defense has been hot garbage today.

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