Covid-19

[XU_Lou]

From a German study - will need to translate:

"There is no scientifically sound evidence from the specialist literature cited in the article by the RKI, and neither from the “ current ” studies mentioned there, that masks that are worn by the normal population in public spaces (shops, public transport), regardless of which type The nature of them, whether medical MNS or so-called community MNB, could reduce the transmission of pathogens in respiratory infections, such as influenza or COVID-19 in particular, in order to " sustainably reduce the rate of spread of COVID-19 in the population and reduce the number of new cases to achieve ”, as it says in the RKI article."

"Neither the RKI or the WHO nor the ECDC or CDC presented scientific data for a positive effect of masks in public (in the sense of a reduced "speed of spread of COVID-19 in the population" [ 1 ]) because such data were not available gives [ 1 ] [ 6 ] [ 7 ] [ 8 ] [ 9 ]. The update of the Cochrane review also does not support the use of masks in public spaces in any way [ 10 ]. This is confirmed by 2 further reviews of the relevant literature from April 2020 [ 11 ] [ 12]. The same applies to the study from Hong Kong carried out a few years ago [ 5 ]."


https://www.thieme-connect.com/produ...55/a-1174-6591

[XU_Lou]

The WHO-commissioned meta-study on the effectiveness of facemasks, published in the medical journal The Lancet in June 2020, has been instrumental in shifting global facemask policies during the Covid-19 pandemic. However, the meta-study, which claimed a risk reduction of 80% with facemasks, is seriously flawed on several levels and should be retracted:

https://swprs.org/who-mask-study-seriously-flawed/

https://reason.com/2020/06/22/promin...-badly-flawed/

[Xville]

It's really odd how hard you are fighting this mask thing I mean seriously. At the end of the day, who effing cares to what percentage it is effective, even if it is .1%, so what? If you want to be this stubborn about a minor inconvenience, that's your prerogative, but good lord it's just a mask.

[Smails]

It's really odd how hard you are fighting this mask thing I mean seriously. At the end of the day, who effing cares to what percentage it is effective, even if it is .1%, so what? If you want to be this stubborn about a minor inconvenience, that's your prerogative, but good lord it's just a mask.

I wear a mask where required because I am a rule follower by nature. I had to wear a mask at my daughters HS soccer games this year, which were outdoor and we were required to sit 6 feet apart. I think that's absurdly stooopid considering all the data. It's okay have a discussion when there is so much conflicting data out there. And who are you to determine what's a minor inconvenience to anyone? I really wish people would just stop telling others what's a big deal and what's not. Your personal experience and conditioning have nothing to do with your neighbor's.

[Xville]

I wear a mask where required because I am a rule follower by nature. I had to wear a mask at my daughters HS soccer games this year, which were outdoor and we were required to sit 6 feet apart. I think that's absurdly stooopid considering all the data. It's okay have a discussion when there is so much conflicting data out there. And who are you to determine what's a minor inconvenience to anyone? I really wish people would just stop telling others what's a big deal and what's not. Your personal experience and conditioning have nothing to do with your neighbor's.

unless there is a medical or developmental issue of some kind, wearing a mask is a minor inconvenience. I just think dying on the sword of wearing a mask is odd.

[XU_Lou]

unless there is a medical or developmental issue of some kind, wearing a mask is a minor inconvenience. I just think dying on the sword of wearing a mask is odd.

Dude - I'm not telling you or anyone else not to wear one - - I'm telling you (i.e. the gov't) not to tell me what to do. I've shared my reasons on this over the last several weeks, if you really want to know why....

[Muskie in dayton]

Why don't you go up there and help her out. After all, you're the "scientist". haha. Stay at a Holiday Inn Express, it might help you. Oh, and you can leave your mask at home, no need for one in SD like in ND now.

Well look at this. The bullshit I smelled has come out to be bullshit. https://www.wired.com/story/are-covid-patients-gasping-it-isnt-real-as-they-die/

[Xville]

Well look at this. The bullshit I smelled has come out to be bullshit. https://www.wired.com/story/are-covid-patients-gasping-it-isnt-real-as-they-die/

really all this proves is that social media sucks. People can say whatever the hell they want in those forums, and if it agrees with their "agenda," they will believe it. I'm normally not into government stepping in to tell us what to do or restrict something, but I would be all for them completely wiping any kind of social media from the map.

[bobbiemcgee]

Funny, you keep bringing up the grocery store argument, and I keep providing data that shows how absurd the idea of wearing a mask in a grocery store really is, and yet, you never respond to that data....

You can get a covid test at King Soopers (Kroger) now for $25. Results in 15 minutes. Maybe you can get the test and wait around outside....

[XU_Lou]

You can get a covid test at King Soopers (Kroger) now for $25. Results in 15 minutes. Maybe you can get the test and wait around outside....

Maybe you can mind your own business, comrade.