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    Silver Lining in this Mess

    I see two very positive things that could play out for us in the midst of the current debacle this team has created.

    1. Steele gets the opportunity to make it very clear who the leader of this program is and how we are going to get ourselves back to playing respectable basketball again. If it means benching, escorting out of the program....whatever. Now is the time to make this HIS program.

    2. How he handles this and how this team plays the next two months will be a very clear indicator of his capabilities. Great learning lesson for him. Mack and Miller went through similar difficult situations. We will see if Steele has the mettle to be a high level D1 coach.

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    Honestly, how he handled last year and how the team bought in and finished the season was what I thought at the time- a huge indicator that he was the right guy.

    Bringing in a good recruiting class to add to that team that turned things around with a full offseason to build on that momentum and now we look worse is pretty concerning.

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    Quote Originally Posted by bleedXblue View Post
    I see two very positive things that could play out for us in the midst of the current debacle this team has created.

    1. Steele gets the opportunity to make it very clear who the leader of this program is and how we are going to get ourselves back to playing respectable basketball again. If it means benching, escorting out of the program....whatever. Now is the time to make this HIS program.

    2. How he handles this and how this team plays the next two months will be a very clear indicator of his capabilities. Great learning lesson for him. Mack and Miller went through similar difficult situations. We will see if Steele has the mettle to be a high level D1 coach.
    I've been saying this for the last few games! It's insanity by definition. They keep doing the same thing that gets them in trouble and seem to be doubling down on that crap.

    He's got to make a statement and that begins with PT. F**K this measuring their playing by their practice. Normally I agree with the if you play hard and well in practice you are more likely to do so in-game and you deserve to see the court.

    Whatever the thinking is here IT'S NOT WORKING!!!!

    Time for a shake-up.

    Start KyKy, Freemantle and Agent 4 together, James, even Schrand if that serves the message.

    Same-old, same-old is not working.
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    Even tho he was productive thru his career, Dedrick Finn was escorted out of the program in his senior year.

    That was the defining moment when Sean Miller took control of his program from Matta. That ended in a conference tournament championship and an NCAA berth.
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    I remember pondering ax’s decisions to enter new Big East while in the A10. I thought maybe UC playing in a much inferior league, would appear more often to NCAA tourney because recruiting in AAC and getting superior talent trumps AAC lesser programs. Maybe X would struggle with well advanced teams in a much more talented league. If X has a great team in this new BE, the odds would favor seeding of 1-4 as opposed to having superior teams in A10 and getting a “easier” 6-10 seed.
    Choice: get to NCAA every year as an average 7 seed or get invite to NCAA as a 2-6 seed every 3rd year ?
    I never thought the Big East would be so far advanced than other leagues .

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    Quote Originally Posted by Masterofreality View Post
    Even tho he was productive thru his career, Dedrick Finn was escorted out of the program in his senior year.
    I said that in the game thread last night. Every new coach we’ve had booted a starter early in the coach’s tenure. Matta booted Dave Young. Miller booted Finn. Mack didn’t technically boot Lyons, but made it clear who was in charge and where the door is located if he didn’t like it.

    Addition by subtraction is a control taking tactic... “If coach will kick off _____, then what would happen with me if I don’t fall in line?” The biggest difference is Steele doesn’t appear to be alpha enough and the obvious candidate for booting (cough Q cough) doesn’t appear to be a sh!thead like those mentioned above. If Steele sets a precedent that sucking leads to getting kicked off, then you’ll have a team full of guys playing scared.

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    Quote Originally Posted by xukeith View Post
    I remember pondering ax’s decisions to enter new Big East while in the A10. I thought maybe UC playing in a much inferior league, would appear more often to NCAA tourney because recruiting in AAC and getting superior talent trumps AAC lesser programs. Maybe X would struggle with well advanced teams in a much more talented league. If X has a great team in this new BE, the odds would favor seeding of 1-4 as opposed to having superior teams in A10 and getting a “easier” 6-10 seed.
    Choice: get to NCAA every year as an average 7 seed or get invite to NCAA as a 2-6 seed every 3rd year ?
    I never thought the Big East would be so far advanced than other leagues .
    The problem isn't the Big East. At least not this year.

    Xavier had to sweat out Missouri, and Missouri State, and UConn. They lost to Florida who right now isn't looking like a tournament team, and Wake who isn't looking like a CBI team. With the exception of maybe Florida (if they ever get it together), none of those teams probably even finish in the top four of the Atlantic Ten right now. When you barely win three games against teams that wouldn't finish in the top four of the A10, you're assuming a lot by thinking we'd be a tournament team if we were in the A10.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Blue Blooded-05 View Post
    I said that in the game thread last night. Every new coach we’ve had booted a starter early in the coach’s tenure. Matta booted Dave Young. Miller booted Finn. Mack didn’t technically boot Lyons, but made it clear who was in charge and where the door is located if he didn’t like it.

    Addition by subtraction is a control taking tactic... “If coach will kick off _____, then what would happen with me if I don’t fall in line?” The biggest difference is Steele doesn’t appear to be alpha enough and the obvious candidate for booting (cough Q cough) doesn’t appear to be a sh!thead like those mentioned above. If Steele sets a precedent that sucking leads to getting kicked off, then you’ll have a team full of guys playing scared.
    Exactly. There is literally no reason to think Q can or should be removed from the team. Allusions to that are insane.

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    Quote Originally Posted by AviatorX View Post
    Exactly. There is literally no reason to think Q can or should be removed from the team. Allusions to that are insane.
    He shouldn't be sent packing, but you think Nick Saban has any reservations about benching a senior? He benched Jalen Hurts who won a National Chamionship!

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    Quote Originally Posted by X Factor View Post
    He shouldn't be sent packing, but you think Nick Saban has any reservations about benching a senior? He benched Jalen Hurts who won a National Chamionship!
    Would be a great comparison if Xavier had a top 5 NBA pick just sitting on their bench not playing at all. I'm betting Steele would have benched Goodin for Anthony Edwards.

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