Didn’t realize you had to separate the two things.....basketball and university. Don’t see how you can. The basketball program doesn’t operate in a vacuum, unaffected by actual reality. Are we discussing dreams or reality here?
Just dreams? OK......winning a NC would be a dream come true. As long as I don’t wake up and find it has become a nightmare.
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Thread: Coach Steele
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01-19-2020, 08:32 AM #331
Last edited by XUGRAD80; 01-19-2020 at 08:35 AM.
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01-19-2020, 08:38 AM #332
You don’t have to separate them, but I don’t really see the relevance in continually leaning on it to push back on the idea that fans can and should have high expectations for a high major division 1 basketball team. And if we’re being honest, Xavier men’s basketball is pretty separate from the university. It’s it’s own entity.
Your responses would make more sense if folks were openly calling for paying players, etc. It just doesn’t fit when the discussion is whether Travis Steele is getting the job done to our expectations.
Everything you are describing is a GIVEN for 99% of college basketball programs. So we as fans judge the success on wins and losses.Last edited by AviatorX; 01-19-2020 at 08:41 AM.
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01-19-2020, 09:00 AM #333
Might be true for some, I don’t think it’s true for all.
Someone saying that unless Xavier is going “full speed” towards the “highest level” of success (when success is measured only in terms of wins and losses) they are “accepting defeat”, is an opinion, not a fact.
I merely am stating that from MY perspective, that’s not all there is and I don’t base “success” merely on the wins and loses. Does that make me LESS of a fan, or just a fan with a different perspective?
I accept that there are fans that only look at how many banners can be raised and how many tourneys can be won, and say that unless that is happening, they are a failure. I just don’t agree with that opinion. In fact, I vehemently disagree with that and honestly believe that to take that perspective is to imply that all of the players and coaches that didn’t reach that level, or don’t reach that level in the future, were or will be failures. Which I totally disagree with too.
It’s not a matter of saying X should have high expectations....it’s only a difference of opinion of what the expectations are and what areas they cover.
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01-19-2020, 09:29 AM #334
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Frankly, wins are of utmost importance when it comes to both the basketball team and to the university as a whole. If the basketball team is not winning at a high level, that is a serious problem for the growth and sustainability of the school.
Not making the tournament at this point is a complete failure every year they dont make it.
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01-19-2020, 09:52 AM #335
Man we need to play a game ASAP......AND win or lose, look like we have made some adjustments and are making some progress.
I fear what this board will look like if we don't and continue down the same path we've see so far this year.
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01-19-2020, 10:28 AM #336
Miller definitely had a medical condition, which, although never disclosed, I believe was mental health issues. He took a medical leave of absence a few weeks before the season started, and never returned. Do you really think Butler forced him out a few weeks before the season started because they wanted Holtman as the head coach, and then made up this medical issue?
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01-19-2020, 11:21 AM #337
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01-19-2020, 01:18 PM #338
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01-19-2020, 01:46 PM #339
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01-19-2020, 02:05 PM #340
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