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    The NCAA is effectively a union for the colleges. Until the players have an equivalent things will always be lopsided, imo.

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    Commentary: Why NCAA athletes marketing themselves would hurt college sports.

    Not sure the writers opinion agrees with yours Brew?


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    Quote Originally Posted by waggy View Post


    Commentary: Why NCAA athletes marketing themselves would hurt college sports.

    Not sure the writers opinion agrees with yours Brew?

    What the hell are you talking about??

    I DO think it will hurt college sports. That's why I'm concerned. What's disturbing is that the writers are three members of the NCAA Board of Governors, and their opinions are INCREDIBLY weak. They say nothing more than they don't like the law and that it will mess things up for the NCAA if it is passed. As if messing things up for the NCAA is somehow a mitigating thing for the governor and the courts to consider. They say that as if that is somehow relevant enough to keep it from happening. If that's all the NCAA's leadership has to say about it, then they are completely fucked.
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    And then this gem came out today...

    https://www.cbssports.com/college-fo...ollege-sports/

    Quotes from Emmert...

    Emmert on Tuesday, while speaking to a group of Division I athletic directors, called the current debate over name, image and likeness rights the "single biggest issue" in his almost-decade on the job.
    and...

    This is a "huge, huge issue. As big a one as we've seen in modern times," Emmert said
    But then.....

    "My personal view is folks in general think that every student-athlete is going to be making hundreds of thousands of dollars," Emmert told CBS Sports. "One or two will be making some significant amount of money. Nobody else will."
    The first two statements are arguably true.

    The third statement is either a flat out lie, or it's grossly misinformed. Either way, it does not instill a lot of confidence that the NCAA is going to get this right.

    Let's pretend that Emmert actually believes the third statement is true. Can he explain why this "huge huge issue" that is the biggest in modern times is so big when it is really only going to impact "one or two people" who will be making significant money??

    The more they talk, the more I'm starting to believe that they are ultimately going to get crushed.
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    I will agree that the NCAA is doing a poor job of defining it's position. But I think his last statement is pretty close to true. Really not many athletic departments are profitable. They may have big budgets, but that is different than profitability. The us government has a giant budget, and yet is always broke.

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    the only thing that i think is a problem for the ncaa is coaching salaries. if they could reign in some of the exorbitant coaches' salaries out there, there'd be a lot less controversy imo. obviously that's unlikely, but i think it'd go a long way

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    Quote Originally Posted by scoscox View Post
    the only thing that i think is a problem for the ncaa is coaching salaries. if they could reign in some of the exorbitant coaches' salaries out there, there'd be a lot less controversy imo. obviously that's unlikely, but i think it'd go a long way
    They tried in the early 1990s. They wanted to put a cap on how much coaches could make. The coaches took it to court and won on the grounds that what the NCAA was trying to do constituted wage fixing. Expect to see that ruling referenced in the near future if/when the issue of allowing college players access to the free market lands in court.
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    Quote Originally Posted by waggy View Post
    I will agree that the NCAA is doing a poor job of defining it's position. But I think his last statement is pretty close to true. Really not many athletic departments are profitable. They may have big budgets, but that is different than profitability. The us government has a giant budget, and yet is always broke.
    Giving players the rights to their NILs will not cost the athletic departments or schools any additional money. If only one or two people are able to make money off of their NILs, then what's the problem?? Why would they even care about the law in California, much less call it the biggest issue of modern times, if it was only going to really effect one or two people?
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    Quote Originally Posted by xubrew View Post
    Giving players the rights to their NILs will not cost the athletic departments or schools any additional money. If only one or two people are able to make money off of their NILs, then what's the problem?? Why would they even care about the law in California, much less call it the biggest issue of modern times, if it was only going to really effect one or two people?
    If you're really not smart enough to understand maybe you stay off the subject. Or you could drop the word crushed a few more times. Drama queen.

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    Quote Originally Posted by waggy View Post
    If you're really not smart enough to understand maybe you stay off the subject. Or you could drop the word crushed a few more times. Drama queen.
    Yeah, don't you just hate when people bring things into a conversation that are entirely wrong or irrelevant, and that they obviously don't understand??

    Yunno, I think that's actually one of the NCAA's biggest problems.
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