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    Quote Originally Posted by scoscox View Post
    plenty of kids don't complete their undergrad when they leave early for the nba. seems absurd to force guys who actually have completed their undergrad degree to finish the graduate degree if they don't want to
    It's not forcing the student athlete to do ANYTHING! There is no obligation on their part to go any further than taking a few classes. How long would it take for for the school to catch up to the student if he didn't do anything in the graduate program at all except be admitted and schedule classes? By the time they do, he would be finished with basketball. It simply forces the program to take the chance that the student will finish a masters degree in one year, which is absurd for many reasons.

    Who is does punish is the students who have every intention to finish a postgrad degree somewhere but no program will take them because they don't want to take the chance. There are many reasons why a student might not finish their degree of which the team/university has no control (or, often, the student himself). So some students might not finish anyway even if they intend to and 'convince' the school to take a chance on them.

    This does not help anybody.

    This is a complete joke.
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    Quote Originally Posted by xufan02 View Post
    I guess I'm in the minority that doesn't disagree with this. I know it is a basketball decision for most of these kids, but they should complete their class work. If not then what was the purpose of this in the first place.
    Some graduate degrees take more than a year to complete.
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    And then there is the situation where a kid starts a graduate program and then realizes it’s not something they want to pursue any further because they don’t enjoy it......what then? Is the student then going to be expected to finish it? Seems like this has not been fully thought out by those proposing this new rule.

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    Quote Originally Posted by XUGRAD80 View Post
    And then there is the situation where a kid starts a graduate program and then realizes it’s not something they want to pursue any further because they don’t enjoy it......what then? Is the student then going to be expected to finish it? Seems like this has not been fully thought out by those proposing this new rule.
    They can "expect" the student to finish all they want. The question is, can they COMPEL him too? The answer is, obviously, no. It is there that this whole proposal turns into a clusterf*ck all the way around.
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    Quote Originally Posted by UCGRAD4X View Post
    They can "expect" the student to finish all they want. The question is, can they COMPEL him too? The answer is, obviously, no. It is there that this whole proposal turns into a clusterf*ck all the way around.
    The only way that I can see that I can see them being able to compel someone to do it, is if they could word the scholarship in such a way that if the athlete doesn’t finish it within the allowable time period, that they would be legally forced to repay the institution......and I’m not real sure that would even be legal.

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    Meanwhile....back to recruiting tidbits and rumors

    Rivals has a piece today on junior big man Ryan Kalkbrenner, 7ft and 225 lbs, Trinity Catholic of St. Louis. Not sure where I missed it, but he has already visited Xavier and came away impressed.

    “ it was a good visit. I called them like two days before I visited but even though it was thrown together kind of quick it was still good. I think I would fit well in their system.”

    He has also visited Tulsa and hopes to visit Missouri soon. Offers already from Illinois, Kansas State, Rice, and others. Considered a real rim protector and defensive specialist right now, but Rivals says he can score on the block, play a pick and pop, and can really run the floor. They expect his recruitment to really blow up this summer and into next season.

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    Quote Originally Posted by XUGRAD80 View Post
    Meanwhile....back to recruiting tidbits and rumors

    Rivals has a piece today on junior big man Ryan Kalkbrenner, 7ft and 225 lbs, Trinity Catholic of St. Louis. Not sure where I missed it, but he has already visited Xavier and came away impressed.

    “ it was a good visit. I called them like two days before I visited but even though it was thrown together kind of quick it was still good. I think I would fit well in their system.”

    He has also visited Tulsa and hopes to visit Missouri soon. Offers already from Illinois, Kansas State, Rice, and others. Considered a real rim protector and defensive specialist right now, but Rivals says he can score on the block, play a pick and pop, and can really run the floor. They expect his recruitment to really blow up this summer and into next season.
    Hmmm... Wonder if the NCAA can come up with a rule that would force him to come to Xavier. That would be cool.
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    good article on transfer portal and so many players exploring options. Glad I am not a coach.
    https://247sports.com/Article/Colleg...ers-130900424/

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    Quote Originally Posted by XUGRAD80 View Post
    Meanwhile....back to recruiting tidbits and rumors

    Rivals has a piece today on junior big man Ryan Kalkbrenner, 7ft and 225 lbs, Trinity Catholic of St. Louis. Not sure where I missed it, but he has already visited Xavier and came away impressed.

    “ it was a good visit. I called them like two days before I visited but even though it was thrown together kind of quick it was still good. I think I would fit well in their system.”

    He has also visited Tulsa and hopes to visit Missouri soon. Offers already from Illinois, Kansas State, Rice, and others. Considered a real rim protector and defensive specialist right now, but Rivals says he can score on the block, play a pick and pop, and can really run the floor. They expect his recruitment to really blow up this summer and into next season.
    His AAU stats are raw. 2.5 field goals made per game. 0.5 blocks per game. He is young and extremely thin.

    https://basketball.realgm.com/player...Summary/134681

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    Quote Originally Posted by xukeith View Post
    good article on transfer portal and so many players exploring options. Glad I am not a coach.
    https://247sports.com/Article/Colleg...ers-130900424/
    That was a good article! Thanks for sharing.

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