Quote Originally Posted by Snipe View Post
If Mexicans were so great, why is Mexico such a shitpile?
American discourse on immigration is a rerun. People could and did say the same thing about every nationality that came here en masse. Mexico is a shitpile right now. Mexico is actually in crisis. The death and crime numbers are staggering. The corruption is deep and rampant. All that said, it makes at least as much sense to say the people fleeing said shitpile are those most likely to contribute to a functioning society.

Maybe 10 or 20 years ago southern border immigration was solely about the wage disparity between Mexico and us. Stopping employers from hiring illegal immigrants won't stop it. These people are fleeing a crumbling society and death, just as my Irish ancestors did. You are not going to stop them. People take rafts from Cuba, they take rafts across the Mediterranean to escape the Middle East. The will to live is not going to be stopped by a wall.

It’s a Crisis of Civilization in Mexico.’ 250,000 Dead. 37,400 Missing. - WSJ

Have some faith in Western principles. They've gotten this country through much worse.