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04-25-2018, 08:46 PM #21
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04-26-2018, 08:38 AM #22
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04-26-2018, 12:12 PM #23
What something actually becomes is not always what it was meant to be when it was originally designed and developed. NCAA college sports was never meant to be a feeding ground for professional leagues. But that is what they have become. There’s no changing that entirely. However, they can becomes something MORE than just that also. .......
While there is no shame in someone leaving early to join the professional ranks, the real goal of any academic institution is to have the one that enter, FINISH their work there
.......Taking people into the program, that you know are not going to finish seems to be counter productive to that aim. One needs to view the university, and ALL of its departments, as parts of the whole. From the desk of the PRESIDENT of a university, it would not be abnormal to see that graduating students would be the goal of ALL of their different departments. Kind of how the president of a manufacturing company would see the goal of all of the different departments as being the production of a product, and that all the different departments should be working toward the same goal.
So, YES.....from the standpoint of the university being an academic institution, that sees education as its its own reward and not just as a means to a job.....there IS something “wrong” with it.
Now I am NOT SAYING that either everyone needs a college education, or that getting a college education makes someone better than another. But then again, I’m not a college president. But I can understand exactly WHY a college president could see problems with students leaving before they finish their education. I can understand why they do not like the one and done rule. It’s almost a slap in the face of everything they hope to stand for, and hope that the institution they lead would stand for.
By the way....did anyone else notice that DePaul lost a recruit to the South Dakota Insitite of Mines?
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04-26-2018, 12:20 PM #24
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04-26-2018, 12:34 PM #25
I know many people who just needed to go to college to take a class or two so they could make it to the next step/level in their career. A one-and-doner seems like this kind of person. Someone who just needs to go to college to take a class or two so they are ready for the next step in their career. There is no intent to earn a degree or complete anything other than a few classes.
We've come a long way since my bench seat at the Fieldhouse!
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04-26-2018, 06:27 PM #26
Sure i know people like that too....but if you talk to the Academics that actually run the reservation, prepping people for jobs or enhancing ones career is NOT the PRIMARY purpose of the university...in THEIR eyes.
You need to look at it through ThEIR eyes, and in THEIR view a one and done that only came to university to play a sport for a year is NOT a good thing.
Doesn’t matter what you and I think about it....what matters is what the Board Members and Presidents of the Universities think about it.
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04-27-2018, 08:01 AM #27
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04-27-2018, 08:12 AM #28
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04-27-2018, 08:19 AM #29
I have no doubt that college presidents and trustees care about the education of their student athletes just as much as they care about the individual educations of the rest of the student body. Which is to say, a little bit.
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04-27-2018, 08:23 AM #30
Sure...let’s “keep it real”. How many board members and university presidents do YOU know?
What’s “real” is that many of them see athletics as a neccessary evil, and while they do see athletics as a way to raise the exposure of the universities, they are still more interested in the education of all the other students and in the image of the university. The question posed was “is there something wrong with that”? With “that” being the athletes not completelimg their education. My point being that those whose life is dedicated to the EDUCATION of young people, and not to the JOB TRAINING of young people...will say YES, there IS something WRONG with that.
I realize that the vast majority HERE don’t give a da&n about the education of the athletes. But the vast majority of people HERE are NOT educators or academics. However the vast majority of university presidents and board members ARE. And it’s the university presidents that are pushing the reforms and pushed for this report.
I think that it’s important that we fans realize that ours is only ONE point of view and that there are others.
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