FYI for the weird order of the top 3 teams:
While most vote distributions for the top 10 teams were a skewed bell curve, Michigan State's was bimodal, one peak at #1 and one peak at #3. Not many people voted them #2. Some more voted them #4 but not as many as the #1 and #3 voters. Then it tails off with four votes in total between #5 and #6. Those who put them at #3 put both Virginia and Villanova ahead of them. The averages worked out to Michigan State at #2 with Virginia a little ahead of them and Villanova right behind them. If we were to place the top 5 by most common ranking selection, it would be the following:
1. Virginia
2. Villanova
3. Michigan State
4. Xavier
5. Cincinnati
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Thread: Rankings 2017-18
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02-12-2018, 08:19 PM #461
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02-13-2018, 06:14 AM #462
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02-13-2018, 07:05 AM #463
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02-13-2018, 11:53 AM #464
I'm not saying they would or wouldnt have but they shouldnt of if everything was the same as it is now and you just made the name Xavier Duke instead.
Please make a viable argument for why we deserve to be ahead of Nova who has one less loss than us and crushed us when we played?"I知 willing to sacrifice everything for this team. I知 going to dive for every loose ball, close out harder on every shot, block out for every rebound. I知 going to play harder than I致e ever played. And I need you all to follow me." -MB '17
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02-13-2018, 12:23 PM #465
Now its just Villanova? A viable argument has ALREADY been stated??
1. They just lost at home to St Johns
2. We just beat two tourney teams on the road
3. We are currently in first place in the Big East
4. We are #2 in the RPI ahead on Nova
Add to all of that, they are without both Booth and Paschal right now.........
Yeah, right now.....TODAY.....we should be ranked ahead of them.
For the record, I don't really give a shit where we are. I'm just pissed in knowing that if Duke, UNC or Kansas we're in our shoes, they certainly wouldn't be ranked 4th. No way in hell.
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02-13-2018, 12:37 PM #466"I知 willing to sacrifice everything for this team. I知 going to dive for every loose ball, close out harder on every shot, block out for every rebound. I知 going to play harder than I致e ever played. And I need you all to follow me." -MB '17
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02-13-2018, 01:37 PM #467
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02-13-2018, 04:39 PM #468
There are two threads going on here; Rankings and Bracketology. I think currently we are fairly positioned in each. I think Rankings are done fairly quickily by the individual voters and look more to last weeks vote, overall record and more recent wins than things like strength of schedule and RPI. It represents more of the collective feeling of the voters. I think Virginia, Villanova, and Michigan State are all ranked higher than us because of a better record period. Cincinnati is hightly ranked for the same reason. Bracketology involves more detailed analysis and the selection committee spends days if not weeks creating the ultimate bracket. They are looking a RPI, strength of schedule, good wins, bad losses, home and road records and now tier 1, 2, 3 records. I think seeding us currently as a number one is correct but that's why a Michigan State is higher ranked and lower in bracketology.
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02-15-2018, 10:26 AM #469
I noticed that GoMuskies favorite Sagarin Rankings has Xavier at #1 in the RECENT ranking.
The RECENT, is score-based and weights RECENT play more heavily than earlier games. Its effect will become more pronounced the longer a season goes if a given team happens to have an upward or downward trend.
12 Xavier-Ohio = 89.27 24 3 79.47( 19) 4 1 | 10 2 | 88.71 12 | 89.94 9 | 94.06 1"We sleep safe in our beds because rough men stand ready in the night to visit violence on those who would do us harm."
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02-15-2018, 10:34 AM #470
Hell yeah they do!!!!!
And that is obviously the most important ranking system out there!
Side note: LAST PLACE Big East team St. John's is #19.
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