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Thread: Las Vegas Shooting
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10-03-2017, 06:46 AM #61
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10-03-2017, 07:01 AM #62
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Dont bother with these people Caf. Less than a day afterthe deadliest shooting in US history they have already moved onto their never ending bitching about liberals. They are the true victims, nobody else matters.
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10-03-2017, 07:40 AM #63
Federally licensed firearms dealers are required by federal law to conduct background checks on prospective buyers, but private sellers are not.
Before you go and dismiss an entire argument for this: If that doesn't exist it's news to me, and evidence that more needs to be done.
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10-03-2017, 07:46 AM #64
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10-03-2017, 07:48 AM #65If you purchase a firearm from a federal firearms licensee (FFL) regardless of the location of the transaction — a gun store, a gun show, a gun dealer’s car trunk, etc. — that FFL must confirm that you are legally allowed to purchase that gun. That means the FFL must either run a background check on you via the federal NICS database, or confirm that you have passed a background check by examining your state-issued concealed carry permit or your government-issued purchase permit. There are zero exceptions to this federal requirement.
If an individual purchases a gun across state lines — from an individual or FFL which resides in a different state than the buyer — the buyer must undergo a background check, and the sale must be processed by an FFL in the buyer’s home state.What does exist, however, is a federal exemption for sales between two private, non-FFL residents of the same state, regardless of whether that transaction happens at a gun show or not. The identity of the parties involved in the transaction, not the venue of the sale, is what matters under federal law. This federal exemption makes perfect sense: there’s no federal nexus for a purely private transaction between two private individuals who reside in the same state. Many states, including Oregon, Colorado, and Illinois, have enacted universal background checks in order to eliminate the exemption for same-state private firearms transactions.
So part of what you said is right. Private sales aren't regulated for in state transactions.
Many of the sellers to this shooter are stepping up and stating that they sold to him. All have said that they ran the required background checks.
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10-03-2017, 07:51 AM #66
Ok so your issue is that it's called the "gun show" loophole? Because this:
What does exist, however, is a federal exemption for sales between two private, non-FFL residents of the same state, regardless of whether that transaction happens at a gun show or not. The identity of the parties involved in the transaction, not the venue of the sale, is what matters under federal law. This federal exemption makes perfect sense: there’s no federal nexus for a purely private transaction between two private individuals who reside in the same state. Many states, including Oregon, Colorado, and Illinois, have enacted universal background checks in order to eliminate the exemption for same-state private firearms transactions.
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10-03-2017, 08:05 AM #67dayton will lose by 40 and we will loot tonight.
-Pablo
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10-03-2017, 08:12 AM #68
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10-03-2017, 08:13 AM #69
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10-03-2017, 08:22 AM #70
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