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    Quote Originally Posted by mistabeecee41 View Post
    UPDATE:
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    I think it's pretty much a done deal that he's going to OSU.

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    Quote Originally Posted by XMuskieFTW View Post
    Fixed.

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    And that's why Holtmann left Butler. In a span of a week, he'll have secured 3 4-star recruits.

    Why are we having such a rough summer recruiting?

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    Quote Originally Posted by X Factor View Post
    And that's why Holtmann left Butler. In a span of a week, he'll have secured 3 4-star recruits.

    Why are we having such a rough summer recruiting?
    I'm basing this off nothing but my own feelings but I think it's related to what you're talking about with Holtman. OSU has a buzz about it now with Holtman, while recruiting under Thad had dropped off. Purdue has picked it up a bit after just sending a guy to the NBA and making a Sweet 16. IU obviously has a new buzz as well with Archie.

    So I think it's a combination of bad luck and our traditional recruiting rivals picking it up a bit this off season. Also add in that X has a really good class coming in this year and some players may be scared off.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Juice View Post
    I'm basing this off nothing but my own feelings but I think it's related to what you're talking about with Holtman. OSU has a buzz about it now with Holtman, while recruiting under Thad had dropped off. Purdue has picked it up a bit after just sending a guy to the NBA and making a Sweet 16. IU obviously has a new buzz as well with Archie.

    So I think it's a combination of bad luck and our traditional recruiting rivals picking it up a bit this off season. Also add in that X has a really good class coming in this year and some players may be scared off.
    I'd say that's the biggest reason why they're struggling. I mean OSU still has a ton of resources and they can offer all of these guys a ton of playing time. X is losing Tre and JP true, but still going to have a lot of talent only 1 year above them they'll be competing with for playing time the first couple years. In years past when they had a big class come in (Tu's class and this current senior class) -- They had a year to relax and only get 1-2 recruits. Just so happens this year they need 3-4 so a little different dynamic

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    Quote Originally Posted by xufan2434 View Post
    I'd say that's the biggest reason why they're struggling. I mean OSU still has a ton of resources and they can offer all of these guys a ton of playing time. X is losing Tre and JP true, but still going to have a lot of talent only 1 year above them they'll be competing with for playing time the first couple years. In years past when they had a big class come in (Tu's class and this current senior class) -- They had a year to relax and only get 1-2 recruits. Just so happens this year they need 3-4 so a little different dynamic
    I don't buy this argument. Yes, we have a very good incoming class, but so do a lot of teams and they're landing equally good recruits for '18.

    We shouldn't expect to recruit at a high level every year?

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    Quote Originally Posted by X Factor View Post
    I don't buy this argument. Yes, we have a very good incoming class, but so do a lot of teams and they're landing equally good recruits for '18.

    We shouldn't expect to recruit at a high level every year?
    We have been. We've had 4 straight high level classes. The problem with 2018 is the staff was trying to get Walter and then 4 or so high level ready to play recruits. I just think we've been unlucky in most of these situations. Even if we land 1-2 more top guys we'll be fine. The staff will just have to find someone via grad transfer or decommitment in the spring.

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    Quote Originally Posted by X Factor View Post
    I don't buy this argument. Yes, we have a very good incoming class, but so do a lot of teams and they're landing equally good recruits for '18.

    We shouldn't expect to recruit at a high level every year?
    No I agree, we should for sure expect to be at a high level every year. I know the staff does. I'm just guessing at why they're finishing 2nd/3rd on these guys this year. They have a lot of ties to Indiana area which got em Tre and Scruggs. This year they went for the same caliber and high ranking guys, but I don't think they had the same inside track to em all. So, I don't know. Maybe they hadn't focused enough time to just specifically one or 2 them? I don't have that information.

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    For some reason, I have a feeling it's going to be a domino effect once we get one of the ESPN Top 100 guys, I feel like a couple more will spark more interest and see we're building something special. I'd love to get Noah Locke, but with Scruggs just arriving I don't know how plausible that is, and with Q still on roster too. It's nice we have some depth, but I really hope we don't strike out big time on this class. One bad class can set you back a bit. That being said Mack & company have an eye for talent, and I think they develop players pretty well. We'll be fine regardless as our stock is trending upwards in college circles.

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