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No but when an event gets extensive coverage do you think terrorist groups aren't happy about that? Why do you think they choose some of the most visible places?

I think they are happy with getting coverage. They slaughtered young girls in Manchester. It made the news. I think they were delighted.

Do you think we can stop them by ignoring the slaughter of little girls? Is that the strategy?

Rotherham child sexual exploitation scandal

They ignored Muslim rape of White Women and little girls for years in Rotherham.

From January 2011 Andrew Norfolk of The Times pressed the issue, reporting in 2012 that the abuse in the town was widespread, and that the police and council had known about it for over ten years.

In August 2014 the Jay report concluded that at least 1,400 children, most of them white girls aged 11–15, had been sexually abused in Rotherham between 1997 and 2013 by a network of British-Pakistani men

That is beyond disgusting.

The abuse included gang rape, forcing children to watch rape, dousing them with petrol and threatening to set them on fire, threatening to rape their mothers and younger sisters, and trafficking them to other towns. There were pregnancies—at least one at age 12—terminations, miscarriages, babies raised by their mothers, and babies removed, causing further trauma.

The failure to address the abuse was attributed to a combination of factors revolving around race, class and gender—contemptuous and sexist attitudes toward the mostly working-class victims; fear that the perpetrators' ethnicity would trigger allegations of racism and damage community relations; the Labour council's reluctance to challenge a Labour-voting ethnic minority; lack of a child-centred focus; a desire to protect the town's reputation; and lack of training and resources

So for political reasons they ignored it and guess what, it didn't stop. They were afraid they would be called racists, and an estimated number of "at least" 1400 children, mostly White working class 14 and under were raped.

I may be a reactionary extremist, but you don't have to be one to judge this one. If you can't protect your women, you are no longer a nation. A man has an obligation to protect his woman best he can, and a nation has the same. You let people come in and prey on you, and its over.

Just a sidebar.

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You may be missing the point.

Seven people die in London, five people die in Orlando. Why is Orlando not outrageous? Why does the media focus on ISIS and terrorism? Because it was a veteran that committed the crime in Orlando we view it differently? Because we are used to shootings and not bombings? What if this was a suicide bombing that killed five people instead of a disgruntled employee? It would be all over the news.

Orlando is outrageous, if you consider every instance of workplace violence where people snap and kill people outrageous. I tend to think that is outrageous. Why is Orlando not outrageous? Because of the competition it faces with people trying to kill innocent little girls at a concert.

Now in his mentally maladjusted mind, the guy in Orlando was treated unjustly and those people had what was coming to them. And I will also agree that in the case of Muslim killing young White women he thought they had it coming to them as well. One of the big differences is that one of these has backing and a big support group. The freakout White veteran doesn't have a support group urging him on.

For you to compare the two, and fail to comprehend the difference is truly amazing.

Nobody was arrested in the Orlando shooting, because the guy killed himself. He went out with a bang. I am not a fan and I am against the killing of innocents, and I am not trying to discount his crimes.

To return to the topic of this post:

On 22 May 2017, a suicide bombing occurred at Manchester Arena in Manchester, England, following a concert by American singer Ariana Grande. Twenty-three adults and children were killed, including the attacker, and 119 were injured, 23 critically.

142 victims on May 22nd

On 3 June 2017 an attack took place in the Southwark district of London, England, when a van driven at high speed mounted the pavement of London Bridge and was driven into pedestrians. The van crashed, and the three male occupants ran to the nearby Borough Market pub and restaurant area, where they stabbed people with long knives. The Home Secretary Amber Rudd stated that the attackers were believed to be Islamist terrorists.
Eight people were killed and 48 were injured, including four unarmed police officers who attempted to stop the assailants.

56 victims on June 3rd, less than two weeks after the May 22nd concert. In less than two weeks, nearly 200 physical victims. Plenty more victims are around if you include mental victims (mothers, fathers, sisters, brothers, best friends, and even friends with benefits).

One commenter on the British Telegraph newspaper said this:

It really is well beyond time to ruthlessly shut down these animals. We can't just lurch from incident to incident infinitum, like it's as normal as traffic accidents. That would be a massive lose, no matter what the politicians tell us from behind their security details!

I really feel his pain. We can't just keep going on as before.

So back to your point again Lloyd. Why don't we view the White guy in Orlando as bad as these incidents? Is that your point? Do you think I have answered it?

Lloyd, this isn't the Puffington Host comment section, and you are just a pseudo intellectual looking for social status points with regurgitated babble ("I am one of the good guys! Lets talk about this evil White guy instead!).

These two incidents don't actually conflate with one another, and your arguments are weak. This isn't a gun issue, those terrorists had vehicles, bombs and knives, but no guns.

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What is your end game here??? Do you want a holy war? I am pretty sure that is exactly what ISIS wants. Congrats, you want to give them exactly what they are looking for.

You didn't ask me, but I will tell you what I want. It isn't a holy war. I don't want Muslim immigration. I want to stop them from coming here and let them alone to kill each other, which they do at great rates. I liked Trump when he said these were stupid wars and wanted to rid us of these costly foreign entanglements. I hope that he keeps his word.

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First, imperialism does not necessitate colonies, see my comment on an elementary understanding of history. It is a policy of extending a country's power and influence through diplomacy or military force.

I see no end in sight to the bombings in the Middle East by Western powers, and vice versa. We've been trying and failing to stabilize the Middle East since the end of WWII. I do genuinely think you're stupid if you watch these terrorist attacks and pretend its just unprovoked evil. We attack them and they attack us. This is modern war.

How should it play out is the million dollar question. Now we're at a place where Iraq is probably a half century away from being stable, and Syria is a humanitarian crisis even if we rout out ISIS, and then you have Iran, the crisis in Yemen, and Israel-Palestine. I think we should focus on civilians. Bombing them and stonewalling refugees is morally bankrupt and I think it will come back to bite us. Leaving entirely probably wouldn't stop all terrorists attacks, but I do think it would significantly decrease them. In every attack claim, ISIS mentions the bombings against them.

I actually agree with you more than you think.

the Council on Foreign Relation’s Micah Zenko added up the defense department’s data on airstrikes and made a startling revelation: in 2016 alone, the Obama administration dropped at least 26,171 bombs. This means that every day last year, the US military blasted combatants or civilians overseas with 72 bombs; that’s three bombs every hour, 24 hours a day.

Obama was really into the drone killings. It is a human-less machine creping over the landscape. A predator waiting to kill. For some people in the world, all they know of America is the machines that spray death from the sky. I can imagine the palpable fear these people have when they see one of those drones. And we say they hate us because of our transgendered freedom!

I think we should bomb Afghanistan not with bunker busters, but with transgender bathrooms.

I think that Muslims are inbred.

They are inbred because of their horrible culture, which I think is inferior to my Western culture. How could anyone think the two cultures are equal?

Muslim women cover their heads in public, and can only go in public in many Muslim countries with male relative escorts.

So the only girls you ever get to see are related to you, so you end up with a lot of inbreeding and cousin marriages.

Inbreeding isn't good for the genome in a general sense, though the Jews have done alright with it (Einstein married his 1st cousin). Cousin marriage in the Muslim world is rampant. It isn't good for the genes. Western Civ by and large is against incestuous relationships, and many incestuous relationships are formally banned by essentially Eugenic laws that we refuse to recognize as Eugenic, because Eugenics is BADD!. But they don't have those laws, customs or social mores, so they inbreed constantly.

That is one reason why Muslims in the Middle East have lower IQs, and also from my perspective, are not very attractive. Maybe their is a good reason after a few generations of inbreeding to keep that veil on!

Here is a list of World ranking of countries by their average IQ

If you look at that list, one problem Muslim countries have is a dearth in human capital.

Egypt 81
Syria 83
Lebanon 82
Iran 84
Kuwait 86
Jordan 84
Iraq 87
Libya 83

You get the picture. That is what inbreeding does. You get millions of these dolts together, and it is no surprise that you can't create a polite society.

It also explains the realists in other Muslim nations that refuse to take Muslim refugees. Around 50 majority Muslim nations, and they aren't clamoring for more and more Syrian refugees. Only we do that, because those dim Syrians will surely end up voting Democrat.

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Shouldn't this thread be buried in the "Politics Thread"?

Killing a bunch of little White Women is just politics to Mrs. Garrett.

That made me laugh. Killing girls is just politics.

I remember the good old days when killing little girls wasn't political@!

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Be careful of appropriate suggestions. You may be labeled as a snowflake and triggered by the ever original and clever tough guys of real America.

Is the killing of little White women a political act? Do you think it appropriate to brush it all off as politics?

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In the end, we have a benefit concert with all the trappings. I am for the money going for the victims, but does anyone feel like this solved the problem? Will Manchester be OK from now on? Or will we need another benefit concert and another hashtag next time. It saddens me that social justice warriors can't really change the world with their #cleverhastags.

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In the end, we have a benefit concert with all the trappings. I am for the money going for the victims, but does anyone feel like this solved the problem? Will Manchester be OK from now on? Or will we need another benefit concert and another hashtag next time. It saddens me that social justice warriors can't really change the world with their #cleverhastags.

Probably not considering the British almost elected a new PM who is an anti-Semite and calls Hezbollah his "friends."

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